It May be that, Mr. Chong has enough sight to navigate the web site.

CharlieAt 09:03 AM 2/24/99 -0500, you wrote:
>Yes, that is a good point, the detail here is that Mr. Chung was arguing
>that there is no issue here and that most people surfing there are going
>to be sighted any way....  He clearly needs  some help in understanding
>advocacy and our right to access information.
>
>Fernando
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>Fernando H. F. Botelho
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>On Tue, 23 Feb 1999, Gary Wunder wrote:
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>> I'm not here to suggest that an inaccessible website is good, only that
>> there are ways to change it, and the issue isn't as simple as money and a
>> clear choice of right and wrong as to how one exerts influence.
>>
>>  How, in the past, have we convinced businesses to put their information in
>> braille and on cassette?  It wasn't by demanding that the Amway Corporation
>> do it before we would get involved, it was by getting involved, proving we
>> could make sales, winning friends who, after a time, were shocked that info
>> was so hard for us to get at and made it their mission to help us.
>>
>>
>>  This morning I posted this note to another list.  I submit it for your
>> thoughts here.
>>
>>   I suggest the real test of the agreement is whether, say in six months, the
>>   shopping center is still inaccessible.  I think this gives many of us the
>>   opportu;nity to write a letter saying something like:
>>
>>   I was persuaded to shop at your site since you have an agreement with a
>>   charity I very much support.  Unfortunately your site is not one I can use
>>   as someone who is blind.  Here's is what you need to do to get my business.
>>
>>   There is a certain irony to being able to use funds generated from in
>>   inaccessible site in the fight for accessibility.  If, after a reasonable
>> period of time, we do not see that access, then we
>>   can go to President Maurer and others, saying we've tried without success
>>   to get this working, and in the absence of progress, we should look for
>>   another site and make our work and our leaving very public.
>>
>>
>>
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