Hello Albert and all,
Jonathan Mosen has started a "Blindphones" list for any of us to share or ask questions about various phones and platforms. Focus is primarily iPhone and Android. I signed up to get a balanced view of both Android and iPhone user perspectives. I have found it a useful list. It is a fairly new list that just started in the last week of September this Fall. I am pasting below the initial kickoff email he sent.
From: Announcements [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Jonathan Mosen
Sent: Friday, September 29, 2017 5:50 AM
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Subject: [Mosen Consulting Announcement] Announcing the Accessible Phones for the Blind email group
Back in the days of Symbian and Windows mobile, Talks and MobileSpeak, I operated a popular email group called BlindPhones. We actively encouraged product comparisons on the list, so not only could you compare the different platforms and discuss how accessible they were, you could compare screen readers for those platforms. It was a handy resource for people making up their mind about which combination of products to choose, and it was particularly useful for assistive technology trainers who needed to understand when and why they might recommend one solution over another for a particular client.
At a time when I was travelling extensively, and working online while on the road was less easy than it is now, I discontinued the list because it was difficult for me to keep up the moderation tasks. Now, I'm delighted to announce its return.
Hosted on Groups.io, The Blind Phones group is your place for discussions about phones accessible to blind and vision impaired people.
Predominantly, this group concentrates on smartphones, but discussion about any accessible phone is welcome.
Many groups exist for specific platforms, particularly iOS and Android. This group is platform agnostic, and encourages product comparisons. If you have criteria that are particularly important to you, and you want to know whether you're better off with iOS or Android, or for that matter a Samsung or a Pixel, we welcome the discussion.
We also welcome discussion about the accessibility and functionality of specific smartphone apps.
On the Blind Phones group, we respect everyone's product choices. We actively monitor the list and suspend people who use denigrating or demonstrably confrontational language towards an individual for the brand they have chosen, or towards a particular brand. We of course welcome Pointing out negative consequences of making a product choice, in a respectful manner.
We intend that this group be a respectful, helpful resource where we can honestly but politely discuss the relative merits of phone platforms, screen readers and apps.
If this sounds like a place you'd like to be, check out the BlindPhones group page, or jump right in and send a blank email to:
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Jonathan Mosen
Mosen Consulting
Blindness technology eBooks, audiobooks and training
http://www.mosen.org
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From: Visually Impaired Computer Users' Group List [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of albert Cutolo
Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2017 3:22 PM
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Subject: Re: [VICUG-L] Android [was] I have a new phone and I was wondering if there was any android users on the list? I have a galaxy j3 mission. can I have help with it please? thanks
Good evening,
If I may ask, What prompted you too choose the Android phone, rather then the Iphone? I'm asking, because I'm trying to decide from those who use android phones, what the differences are between those two systems.
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From: Visually Impaired Computer Users' Group List [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Ana G
Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2017 7:20 AM
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Subject: Re: [VICUG-L] Android [was] I have a new phone and I was wondering if there was any android users on the list? I have a galaxy j3 mission. can I have help with it please? thanks
You can find information to help you get started with android and talkback from the following sources:
1. Google's official help for Android accessibility:
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__support.google.com_accessibility_android_answer_6006564-3Fhl-3Den&d=DwIFaQ&c=l45AxH-kUV29SRQusp9vYR0n1GycN4_2jInuKy6zbqQ&r=i2lAS5y48WO95mDCuAjlIG96p0YW1yaWRLFO6cv2gL0&m=fgjIwxh6ppIOsxx9Vcm3HZXVJMwUmg-BJiKUIzHFxuI&s=i5Kfii3irY6Tp1ZsaV9Fh3NWVpWBOTxXi7QFctFJWGk&e=
2. The Inclusive Android site, which posts app reviews and walkthroughs.
Though material seems to be old, it's still relevant as 90% of what is posted still works now:
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.InclusiveAndroid.com&d=DwIFaQ&c=l45AxH-kUV29SRQusp9vYR0n1GycN4_2jInuKy6zbqQ&r=i2lAS5y48WO95mDCuAjlIG96p0YW1yaWRLFO6cv2gL0&m=fgjIwxh6ppIOsxx9Vcm3HZXVJMwUmg-BJiKUIzHFxuI&s=bXsyuHPJP8H6x5cwWtloswSezqeyghZFL_istzF9Byg&e=
3. My book on National Braille Press, which is for getting start with
Android:
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.nbp.org_ic_nbp_ANDROID.html&d=DwIFaQ&c=l45AxH-kUV29SRQusp9vYR0n1GycN4_2jInuKy6zbqQ&r=i2lAS5y48WO95mDCuAjlIG96p0YW1yaWRLFO6cv2gL0&m=fgjIwxh6ppIOsxx9Vcm3HZXVJMwUmg-BJiKUIzHFxuI&s=a5HhjRPNb7bv6Ckhe4FIrFPigklN37z2w10S_GKu3T0&e=
4. My reference volume on National Braille Press, which is mostly commands with very brief explanations:
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.nbp.org_ic_nbp_AND-2DCOMMAND.html&d=DwIFaQ&c=l45AxH-kUV29SRQusp9vYR0n1GycN4_2jInuKy6zbqQ&r=i2lAS5y48WO95mDCuAjlIG96p0YW1yaWRLFO6cv2gL0&m=fgjIwxh6ppIOsxx9Vcm3HZXVJMwUmg-BJiKUIzHFxuI&s=bM4-7QKcxCldhRGf7bQOl7iKeBpEL1a7nCncGfdfK54&e=
5. There are also a couple of discussion lists.
* Eyes-Free on Google Groups, which is very high-traffic:
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__groups.google.com_forum_-3Fnomobile-3Dtrue-23-21forum_eyes-2Dfree&d=DwIFaQ&c=l45AxH-kUV29SRQusp9vYR0n1GycN4_2jInuKy6zbqQ&r=i2lAS5y48WO95mDCuAjlIG96p0YW1yaWRLFO6cv2gL0&m=fgjIwxh6ppIOsxx9Vcm3HZXVJMwUmg-BJiKUIzHFxuI&s=B3JoHmhFo0EOwk1LXlwpr1yBMPJZmrYYg1gF0h1JaSc&e=
* VI-Android on Freelists. I'm not on this list, so I don't have any direct experience with it and may be confusing it for a different list.
Anyway, my understanding is that it's relatively low-traffic and on-topic:
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.freelists.org_list_vi-2Dandroid&d=DwIFaQ&c=l45AxH-kUV29SRQusp9vYR0n1GycN4_2jInuKy6zbqQ&r=i2lAS5y48WO95mDCuAjlIG96p0YW1yaWRLFO6cv2gL0&m=fgjIwxh6ppIOsxx9Vcm3HZXVJMwUmg-BJiKUIzHFxuI&s=YOt8L0nrP2B9b_n01B6ZGmINt-gLkMyLAIrWJh2KHFI&e=
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