In fact, I still use a "manual" Perkins Brailler that I bought second-hand in
1975, along with "thermaform" paper-backed plastic sheets.
Also, I did use the ID-Mate and Pen-Friend; but, the preparation sometimes
took more time than I could afford at those moments. I will try to find homes
for these devices. The GTT (Get it Together with Technology) programme,
through CCB, is hoping to have people share their tecnological devices when
they are no longer useful to those users. So, I will contact the coordinator
re these, and other useful items that I no longer use.
Cheers.
Jim H
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Subject: Re: [VICUG-L] braille embossed on all grocery items? Larry thinks
so!!!!
I'm a slate and stylus kind of guy; Louis Braille injured his eye with
a leather awl and my stylus seems eerily similar----I'm labelling and
writing notes daily; my shopping lists, phone numbers (yes I write
them down never trusting devices completely) and I want my reference
books and cards in braille, too. I learned to read it 63 years ago and
neither my nor Braille's operating systems have changed much exscept
for minor upgrades.
On 8/23/17, Terri Hedgpeth <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Well, I am with Ana on this topic. And though it is stinging expensive for
> just producing Braille labels, I finally broke down and bought the Logan
> Tech 6Dot labeler. I absolutely love this thing. I can make labels extremely
> quickly using whatever short-hand and/or grade two Braille. All I do is flip
> the switch on and start typing/Brailling. I to love the convenience of
> Braille labels on credit cards, books, DVDs, spices, box mixes, canisters,
> salad dressings, and so so many more items. I like the instant knowing with
> just a touch of my fingers what something is or contains. I have an older ID
> Mate, and a Pen Friend, but just don't grab either to identify items. I just
> want to know which jar is the Roasted Garlic dressing. I don't want to add
> bar codes labels, or use a device that may or may not need charging or
> updating before I can locate a can of Kidney Beans. In fact, I'll probably
> sell my ID Mate Summit and PenFriend. For detailed info on any item, I go to
> my smart phone or PC and search Google or Directions For Me.
> For me as a long time Braille user, Braille just seems to make everything
> easier.
> Just my personal opinion here and my personal preference for accessing item
> info at home and work.
> Best,
> Terri
>
>
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> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Ana G
> Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2017 3:08 PM
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> Subject: Re: [VICUG-L] braille embossed on all grocery items? Larry thinks
> so!!!!
>
> I don't understand why the U.S. doesn't already have braille labels. I
> believe products sold in the U.K. have basic labels in uncontracted braille,
> so the technology is available, and American companies are already doing
> it.
>
>
> I suspect that part of the reason people don't learn braille is that they
> don't feel they have any reason to. I'm an English teacher. When I ask my
> students about the last thing they read, they mention textbooks and news
> articles. They forget about text messages, product labels, packaging
> instructions, etc. People who are newly blind probably think the same way
> and figure they don't want to put any energy into learning braille since
> they don't plan to read _War and Peace_. Having braille on product packages,
> even if it's as basic as a name (e.g., Campbell's vegetable soup) would give
> them a reason to want to learn braille and make the lives of people on this
> list so much easier.
>
>
> I'm not sure that electronic solutions are the way to go. We can already use
> bar codes to get lots of product info, and we have solutions like the
> PenFriend with easy-to-make QR and NFC labels, but most of us don't use so
> on a regular basis. At least I don't because my own braille labels are so
> much quicker and easier to read (though not to make).
>
>
> On 8/23/2017 2:07 PM, Mike Pietruk wrote:
>> Harry
>>
>> As the vast majority of blind people don't read Braille (70% and
>> higher, it would make little practical or commercial doing this.
>> Probably what would work better, and this should be totally voluntary,
>> would be some sort of digital coding that a device could read and
>> communicate the info to the blind person.
>> That would be a far more viable approach both in delivering the
>> information as well as reaching a far larger portion of the blind
>> audience.
>> And, I suspect that with existing technology, this might be
>> accomplished quite easily with most of the development done on the
>> user end with a bit of co-operation on the manufacturing and packaging
>> side.
>> Conveying the info in bgraille really these days isn't the road to go.
>>
>>
>> Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere,
>> diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies.
>> - Groucho Marx
>>
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