Joe, the meters refers to the wave length, which is inversely proportional 
to the frequency.  The conversion factor, at least in free space, is the 
speed of light.  The speed of light equals the frequency times the wave 
length, which makes all kinds of sense if you think about it.  So that's why 
the antennas get longer as the frequency goes down.

When I said 10 meters and down, I was talking about the frequency, so I 
should have really said 30 MHZ and down.  The ham bands are usually given in 
terms of the wave length, which is just an approximation.  For example, 20 
meters is really 15 mhz, not 14, since the speed of light is roughly 
300,000,000 meters per second.
--
Jim, KE5AL
-----Original Message----- 
From: Joe Quinn
Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2014 4:06 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Ok tones on jf

When you say10 meters and below, do you mean 20, 30, etc.? Cause I don't 
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nk there's a 8 meters? it's kinda interesting that it's a higher number but 
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t's a lower wavelength or something? I don't get it. And how do you convert 
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he mhz into meters so when i hear about 10 meters, I won't have to go 
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3.925 mhz then? Should've remembered this from my tech test days, but alas,=
I don'tff73,=20

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> On Oct 9, 2014, at 3:40 PM, Jim Shaffer <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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> Joe, if I understand your question correctly, it was "Are there PL tones 
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> HF frequencies?"  The PL tones really don't have anything to do with 
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> frequency, rather they are used to bring up a repeater.  If you have 
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> correct PL tone when you use a repeater, the repeater will key up and=20
> "repeat" your signal, otherwise it won't.
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> The vast majority of HF activity is not through repeaters at all, but 
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> station to station, or symplex as you'd say on 2 meters for example.=20
> Normally, if we have a contact on HF, 10 meters and below, it would just 
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> between your equipment and mine, without involving any repeater.  Now 
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> are some repeaters on 10 meters, and they behave like other VHF/UHF=20
> repeaters, and may have PL tones.
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> hth
> --
> Jim, KE5AL
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> -----Original Message-----=20
> From: Joe Quinn
> Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2014 3:03 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Ok tones on jf
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> When you connect to a jf frequency, is there a pl tone like there is in 
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> epeaters? Thanks!=3D=20