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Pat Byrne <[log in to unmask]>
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For blind ham radio operators <[log in to unmask]>
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Sat, 10 May 2014 19:17:06 -0500
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That may go back to the time when it was the 11 meter ham band.  I 
still call it that and not to be dericive.  Old habits die hard!
Pat, K9JAUAt 05:57 PM 5/10/2014, you wrote:
>I agree also. In fact, it's funny how hams insist on calling it 11 meters. I=
>t's as if we can't bring tourselves to call it CB rdio, or even Citizen's Ba=
>nd (nobody really says that anymore anyway, right?). Nope, it's 11 meters, o=
>r "the chicken band," or worse. A lot of hams seem to think they're all CB'e=
>rs because they can't become hams, I knew a lot of CB'ERS who were happy on C=
>B and didn't Want to be a ham. They thought of us as stuck up, ops who thoug=
>ht they were too good for the rest of the radio ops out there. They also wou=
>ld tell me they listened on 10 Meters sometimes and thought what they heard w=
>as boring.
>
>I'm not a big CB fan, having left it behind after getting my ham license but=
>  I'm happy to welcome any new ham who got their start in cb radio and is sti=
>ll active on it. Same goes for FRIENDS, marine radio, GMRS, MUFFS, etc. etc.=
>  etc.
>
>73
>
>
>Ron Miller
>N6MSA
>Handle: "Apollo 1"
>
> > On May 8, 2014, at 11:28 PM, Colin McDonald <[log in to unmask]> wrote=
>:
> >=20
> > hey, it's just another band to talk on for most of us...there is some wier=
>d=20
> > silly stigma attached for some people, but I ain't one of them and if ther=
>e=20
> > was any local use, I'd be on there as much as 2M...it's more 
> relaxed and=20=
>
> > less uptight than ham operating typically is...
> > I remember where I started and it still holds sentimentality  for 
> me even i=
>f=20
> > I don't get to use it very often.
> > there's licensed idiots on 2M too, so it's not like that is confined to 11=
>=20
> > meters at all.
> > 80M in most places around north america have their local and 
> regional rag=20=
>
> > chewers who operate precisely the same as they did when they used 
> to talk=20=
>
> > all night on 37 lower side...nothing has changed for them except perhaps t=
>he=20
> > occasional operator identification when they remember.
> >=20
> > 73
> > Colin, V A6BKX
> > --------------------------------------------------
> > From: "John Miller" <[log in to unmask]>
> > Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2014 5:03 PM
> > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > Subject: Re: Re_compact high output 11M mobile
> >=20
> >> I know many hams who still go on CB radio from time to time. Of course=20=
>
> >> they
> >> take kidding from their friends about it but that's all it is is 
> kidding=20=
>
> >> and
> >> they know it. I used to back when, now there is no one I know on there
> >> except those hams when they do go there once in a while and I have nothin=
>g
> >> that works there but it does happen. I knew a few when I was on CB before=
>=20
> >> I
> >> got my ham ticket even, I can think of 2 or 3 who regularly were both
> >> places.
> >> ----- Original Message -----=20
> >> From: "Ron Miller" <[log in to unmask]>
> >> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> >> Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2014 5:20 PM
> >> Subject: Re: Re_compact high output 11M mobile
> >>=20
> >>=20
> >>> I seriously doubt we'd "chase" anybody off of anything. We aren't chasin=
>g
> >>> th=3D
> >>> e one's we have on the ham bands off of our current turf, what makes you=
>
> >>> thi=3D
> >>> nk we'll move any freebander just because we magically appear on 27 mHz?=
>
> >>>=20
> >>> Ron Miller
> >>> N6MSA
> >>>=20
> >>>> On May 6, 2014, at 6:54 PM, Michael Thurman <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >>>> =3D20
> >>>> I agree.. he truth is, if you are not an idiot none will ever care how
> >>>> =3D3D=3D
> >>>=20
> >>>> much power you run on cb, especially from a mobile. it is one 
> of this=20=
>
> >>>> =3D3D
> >>>> issues that so many hams get all uptight about, but I do not know a =3D=
>3D
> >>>> single ham who actually has a cb and an hf radio. they just turn their
> >>>> =3D3D=3D
> >>>=20
> >>>> power down to what is necessary to make the contact they desire and cal=
>l
> >>>> =3D3D=3D
> >>>=20
> >>>> it good. I truly wish they would just give up and open the entire =3D3D=
>
> >>>> spectrum to us at full power and lets chase he trash off the
> >>>> =3D3D93freehand=3D
> >>> =3D3D94=3D3D
> >>>> areas between cb and 10 meters. Back when the created cb, the 
> ccc and=20=
>
> >>>> =3D3D
> >>>> the rest of the agencies were 100% bonehead stupid to even think that i=
>t
> >>>> =3D3D=3D
> >>>=20
> >>>> would stay legal
> >>>> =3D20
> >>>> I have never run =3D3D93legal=3D3D94 cb and never intend to because i a=
>m not
> >>>> a=3D
> >>> =3D3D
> >>>> jerk on the air and therefore will never have any issues with the =3D3D=
>
> >>>> handful of times I actually would are to use cb.
> >>>> =3D20
> >>>> 73 kb8nla
> >>>> =3D20
> >>>> Michael Thurman
> >>>> [log in to unmask]
> >>>> =3D20
> >>>> =3D20
> >>>> =3D20
> >>>> On May 5, 2014, at 12:16 PM, Colin McDonald 
> <[log in to unmask]> =3D=
>3D
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>> =3D20
> >>>>> Well, michael, there are certainly some technically 
> legal/regulatory=20=
>
> >>>>> =3D3D
> >>>> things=3D3D20
> >>>>> to be aware of.
> >>>>> However, if you get a radio that will transmit on 10M, and 
> run that =3D=
>3D
> >>>> mobile,=3D3D20
> >>>>> and also happen to have 11M in it, then it's easy enough to 
> consider=20=
>
> >>>>> =3D3D
> >>>> it a=3D3D20
> >>>>> 10M mobile radio...most good quality 11M mobile antennas will work =3D=
>3D
> >>>> through=3D3D20
> >>>>> to the upper end of 10M without additional tuning.
> >>>>> I have a Ranger RCI2950 which works very well as a 10M radio...and it
> >>>>> =3D3D=3D
> >>>=20
> >>>> has a=3D3D20
> >>>>> button on the front, called lock, that when pressed, puts the 
> radio =3D=
>3D
> >>>> into the=3D3D20
> >>>>> 40 channel cb mode....still with 40W output on ssb and about 25 on =3D=
>3D
> >>>> am...but=3D3D20
> >>>>> it also has an rf power control on the front so you can 
> easily turn =3D=
>3D
> >>>> that=3D3D20
> >>>>> control all the way counter clock wise and, wonder of wonders, it =3D3=
>D
> >>>> makes the=3D3D20
> >>>>> radio put out exactly 4W am and 12W SSB....now how wierd is that
> >>>>> one=3D3D20=3D
> >>> =3D3D
> >>>> =3D20
> >>>>> ahahahahaha.
> >>>>> Is it a legal CB, no, not for the average person, but if you have your=
>
> >>>>> =3D3D=3D
> >>>=20
> >>>> ham=3D3D20
> >>>>> license, you can legally own and use the radio on 10M...and if you =3D=
>3D
> >>>> happen to=3D3D20
> >>>>> use it on the cb frequencies from time to time, who's going to make an=
>
> >>>>> =3D3D=3D
> >>>=20
> >>>> issue=3D3D20
> >>>>> out of it?
> >>>>> 11m in canada, though there are regulatory standards, is not
> >>>>> regulated=3D3D=3D
> >>> 20=3D3D
> >>>> =3D20
> >>>>> anymore by industry Canada unless there are significant 
> complaints, =3D=
>3D
> >>>> and even=3D3D20
> >>>>> then, you have to send a letter and pay a fee for them to investigate
> >>>>> =3D3D=3D
> >>>=20
> >>>> any=3D3D20
> >>>>> complaint of improper use on cb frequencies here.
> >>>>> As for compact, well, most of these so called export radios 
> are not =3D=
>3D
> >>>> small=3D3D20
> >>>>> really, being the size of large commercial mobile radios...some of
> >>>>> the=3D3D=3D
> >>> 20=3D3D
> >>>> =3D20
> >>>>> newest versions have removable face plates and so on...anytone the =3D=
>3D
> >>>> chinese=3D3D20
> >>>>> brand, make a 10/11m mobile radio with all modes, 40w output 
> on ssb =3D=
>3D
> >>>> and a=3D3D20
> >>>>> removable control head for easier mounting options.  They are between
> >>>>> =3D3D=3D
> >>>=20
> >>>> $150=3D3D20
> >>>>> and $200 on ebay.
> >>>>> and like I said, having a 10M mobile in the vehicle is nice from a
> >>>>> ham=3D3D=3D
> >>> 20=3D3D
> >>>> =3D20
> >>>>> perspective especially since 10m is so good right now.  Get yourself
> >>>>> a=3D3D=3D
> >>> 20=3D3D
> >>>> =3D20
> >>>>> wilson 1000 antenna and talk the world on 10M and 11M if you so choose=
>
> >>>>> =3D3D=3D
> >>>=20
> >>>> lol.
> >>>>> I'm a little surprised 11m is still so popular and heavily used in NL.=
>
> >>>>> =3D3D=3D
> >>>=20
> >>>> It=3D3D20
> >>>>> used to be here in AB as well, but all the transport guys 
> have gone =3D=
>3D
> >>>> over to=3D3D20
> >>>>> VHF FM and most of the old cb hobby crowd have gone to 2M and 80M.
> >>>>> =3D3D20
> >>>>> 73
> >>>>> Colin, V A6BKX
> >>>>> --------------------------------------------------
> >>>>> From: "Michael Ryan" <[log in to unmask]>
> >>>>> Sent: Monday, May 05, 2014 8:01 AM
> >>>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> >>>>> Subject: Re_compact high output 11M mobile
> >>>>> =3D3D20
> >>>>>> Good point John.
> >>>>>> I never thought of that. I could be jeopardizing my amateur radio =3D=
>3D
> >>>> license=3D3D20
> >>>>>> as the CB band is regulated to 4W A.M. and 12W SSB. LOL
> >>>>>> Probably forget that and just get a legal one. There's more CB =3D3D
> >>>> activity=3D3D20
> >>>>>> here in NL which was why I was looking at one.
> >>>>>> =3D3D20
> >>>>>> 73:
> >>>>>> Mike VO1AX=3D3D20=20

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