Honestly, I'm building a 10 meter antenna and I can't say I won't go down
there once in a while with it. There are a lot of idiots but there are a
lot of decent people as well. It's probably more the idiots that get the
attention, likely like every day life the decent people are the majority but
not noticed.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Colin McDonald" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2014 11:28 PM
Subject: Re: Re_compact high output 11M mobile
> hey, it's just another band to talk on for most of us...there is some
> wierd
> silly stigma attached for some people, but I ain't one of them and if
> there
> was any local use, I'd be on there as much as 2M...it's more relaxed and
> less uptight than ham operating typically is...
> I remember where I started and it still holds sentimentality for me even
> if
> I don't get to use it very often.
> there's licensed idiots on 2M too, so it's not like that is confined to 11
> meters at all.
> 80M in most places around north america have their local and regional rag
> chewers who operate precisely the same as they did when they used to talk
> all night on 37 lower side...nothing has changed for them except perhaps
> the
> occasional operator identification when they remember.
>
> 73
> Colin, V A6BKX
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "John Miller" <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2014 5:03 PM
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: Re_compact high output 11M mobile
>
>> I know many hams who still go on CB radio from time to time. Of course
>> they
>> take kidding from their friends about it but that's all it is is kidding
>> and
>> they know it. I used to back when, now there is no one I know on there
>> except those hams when they do go there once in a while and I have
>> nothing
>> that works there but it does happen. I knew a few when I was on CB before
>> I
>> got my ham ticket even, I can think of 2 or 3 who regularly were both
>> places.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Ron Miller" <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2014 5:20 PM
>> Subject: Re: Re_compact high output 11M mobile
>>
>>
>>>I seriously doubt we'd "chase" anybody off of anything. We aren't chasing
>>>th=
>>> e one's we have on the ham bands off of our current turf, what makes you
>>> thi=
>>> nk we'll move any freebander just because we magically appear on 27 mHz?
>>>
>>> Ron Miller
>>> N6MSA
>>>
>>>> On May 6, 2014, at 6:54 PM, Michael Thurman <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>>=20
>>>> I agree.. he truth is, if you are not an idiot none will ever care how
>>>> =3D=
>>>
>>>> much power you run on cb, especially from a mobile. it is one of this
>>>> =3D
>>>> issues that so many hams get all uptight about, but I do not know a =3D
>>>> single ham who actually has a cb and an hf radio. they just turn their
>>>> =3D=
>>>
>>>> power down to what is necessary to make the contact they desire and
>>>> call
>>>> =3D=
>>>
>>>> it good. I truly wish they would just give up and open the entire =3D
>>>> spectrum to us at full power and lets chase he trash off the
>>>> =3D93freehand=
>>> =3D94=3D
>>>> areas between cb and 10 meters. Back when the created cb, the ccc and
>>>> =3D
>>>> the rest of the agencies were 100% bonehead stupid to even think that
>>>> it
>>>> =3D=
>>>
>>>> would stay legal
>>>>=20
>>>> I have never run =3D93legal=3D94 cb and never intend to because i am
>>>> not
>>>> a=
>>> =3D
>>>> jerk on the air and therefore will never have any issues with the =3D
>>>> handful of times I actually would are to use cb.
>>>>=20
>>>> 73 kb8nla
>>>>=20
>>>> Michael Thurman
>>>> [log in to unmask]
>>>>=20
>>>>=20
>>>>=20
>>>> On May 5, 2014, at 12:16 PM, Colin McDonald <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> =3D
>>>> wrote:
>>>>=20
>>>>> Well, michael, there are certainly some technically legal/regulatory
>>>>> =3D
>>>> things=3D20
>>>>> to be aware of.
>>>>> However, if you get a radio that will transmit on 10M, and run that
>>>>> =3D
>>>> mobile,=3D20
>>>>> and also happen to have 11M in it, then it's easy enough to consider
>>>>> =3D
>>>> it a=3D20
>>>>> 10M mobile radio...most good quality 11M mobile antennas will work =3D
>>>> through=3D20
>>>>> to the upper end of 10M without additional tuning.
>>>>> I have a Ranger RCI2950 which works very well as a 10M radio...and it
>>>>> =3D=
>>>
>>>> has a=3D20
>>>>> button on the front, called lock, that when pressed, puts the radio
>>>>> =3D
>>>> into the=3D20
>>>>> 40 channel cb mode....still with 40W output on ssb and about 25 on =3D
>>>> am...but=3D20
>>>>> it also has an rf power control on the front so you can easily turn
>>>>> =3D
>>>> that=3D20
>>>>> control all the way counter clock wise and, wonder of wonders, it =3D
>>>> makes the=3D20
>>>>> radio put out exactly 4W am and 12W SSB....now how wierd is that
>>>>> one=3D20=
>>> =3D
>>>>=20
>>>>> ahahahahaha.
>>>>> Is it a legal CB, no, not for the average person, but if you have your
>>>>> =3D=
>>>
>>>> ham=3D20
>>>>> license, you can legally own and use the radio on 10M...and if you =3D
>>>> happen to=3D20
>>>>> use it on the cb frequencies from time to time, who's going to make an
>>>>> =3D=
>>>
>>>> issue=3D20
>>>>> out of it?
>>>>> 11m in canada, though there are regulatory standards, is not
>>>>> regulated=3D=
>>> 20=3D
>>>>=20
>>>>> anymore by industry Canada unless there are significant complaints,
>>>>> =3D
>>>> and even=3D20
>>>>> then, you have to send a letter and pay a fee for them to investigate
>>>>> =3D=
>>>
>>>> any=3D20
>>>>> complaint of improper use on cb frequencies here.
>>>>> As for compact, well, most of these so called export radios are not
>>>>> =3D
>>>> small=3D20
>>>>> really, being the size of large commercial mobile radios...some of
>>>>> the=3D=
>>> 20=3D
>>>>=20
>>>>> newest versions have removable face plates and so on...anytone the =3D
>>>> chinese=3D20
>>>>> brand, make a 10/11m mobile radio with all modes, 40w output on ssb
>>>>> =3D
>>>> and a=3D20
>>>>> removable control head for easier mounting options. They are between
>>>>> =3D=
>>>
>>>> $150=3D20
>>>>> and $200 on ebay.
>>>>> and like I said, having a 10M mobile in the vehicle is nice from a
>>>>> ham=3D=
>>> 20=3D
>>>>=20
>>>>> perspective especially since 10m is so good right now. Get yourself
>>>>> a=3D=
>>> 20=3D
>>>>=20
>>>>> wilson 1000 antenna and talk the world on 10M and 11M if you so choose
>>>>> =3D=
>>>
>>>> lol.
>>>>> I'm a little surprised 11m is still so popular and heavily used in NL.
>>>>> =3D=
>>>
>>>> It=3D20
>>>>> used to be here in AB as well, but all the transport guys have gone
>>>>> =3D
>>>> over to=3D20
>>>>> VHF FM and most of the old cb hobby crowd have gone to 2M and 80M.
>>>>> =3D20
>>>>> 73
>>>>> Colin, V A6BKX
>>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>>> From: "Michael Ryan" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>> Sent: Monday, May 05, 2014 8:01 AM
>>>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>> Subject: Re_compact high output 11M mobile
>>>>> =3D20
>>>>>> Good point John.
>>>>>> I never thought of that. I could be jeopardizing my amateur radio =3D
>>>> license=3D20
>>>>>> as the CB band is regulated to 4W A.M. and 12W SSB. LOL
>>>>>> Probably forget that and just get a legal one. There's more CB =3D
>>>> activity=3D20
>>>>>> here in NL which was why I was looking at one.
>>>>>> =3D20
>>>>>> 73:
>>>>>> Mike VO1AX=3D20
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