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Butch Bussen <[log in to unmask]>
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For blind ham radio operators <[log in to unmask]>
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Tue, 26 Nov 2013 19:15:07 -0800
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I don't have much faith in home inspectors.  We bought our house in Las 
Vegas in 2000 and of course it was inspected.  The guy grumbled about 
having more than one wire under each screw in the breaker box, but let 
it pass.  He better not ever look at mine here... Anyhow, the people 
that had the house before had put out outside flood lights and ran light 
16 gage zip cord across the rafters in the garage, a real fire hazard 
and he never said a word about that.

73
Butch
WA0VJR
Node 3148
Wallace, ks.


On Tue, 26 Nov 2013, Steve Dresser 
wrote:

> Yeah, the amazing thing was that the home inspector didn't catch the
> problem.
>
> Steve
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John Miller" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2013 19:07
> Subject: Re: Re-station ground
>
>
>> I have also lived in houses like that, I never trust that the electrical is
>> grounded well enough for anything.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Steve Dresser" <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2013 4:59 PM
>> Subject: Re: Re-station ground
>>
>>
>>> Colin,
>>>
>>> I'd caution against using the grounding of the electrical outlets as a
>>> station ground.  I lived in a house where the electrical ground of the
>>> outlets had 150 volts which I measured between it and a stainless steel
>>> counter in the kitchen.  It turned out that the house's electrical system
>>> wasn't grounded to anything in the known universe.
>>>
>>> Steve
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Colin McDonald" <[log in to unmask]>
>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2013 16:31
>>> Subject: Re: Re-station ground
>>>
>>>
>>>> you already have a ground between the tuner and the radio via the coax
>>>> shield...
>>>> You already have full chassis ground through the ground prong on the  AC
>>>> power.
>>>> However, to avoid RF hot spots on the chassis of your equipment, it is
>>>> advisable to use another earth ground of some kind for your
>>>> equipment...either via a ground rod, or to the main electrical ground of
>>>> the
>>>> house such as the city side of the water meter on the cold water pipe,
>>>> or
>>>> connected to the ground rod used by the electrical of the house if there
>>>> is
>>>> one.
>>>> Also, having a separate ground rod just for the station is good because
>>>> that
>>>> can also be used for both RF and electrical ground and will help in the
>>>> case
>>>> of a nearby lightening strike etc.
>>>> You need to use a ground bus, and have a wire from each piece of
>>>> equipment
>>>> connected to that common bus...do not daisy chain the grounds together.
>>>> In
>>>> other words, your grounding has to be paralel, not series.
>>>> If it's electrical ground, the wire length doesn't matter at all...but
>>>> if
>>>> you are going after an RF ground, the length of the ground wire may, if
>>>> you
>>>> are using a non-resonant antenna, or latter line or long wire and a
>>>> tuner,
>>>> effect the tuning of the antenna.
>>>>
>>>> Often an additional ground for the station equipment is not necesary as
>>>> the
>>>> AC ground takes care of it, but sometimes you may need it if you find
>>>> you
>>>> are having issues with RFI in your audio, or excessive noise on receive
>>>> or
>>>> if you are causing RFI to other electronics in the house or with your
>>>> neighbors.
>>>>
>>>> 73
>>>> Colin, V A6BKX
>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>> From: "Mike Ryan" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2013 1:10 PM
>>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> Subject: Re-station ground
>>>>
>>>>> So if I have a ground wire running from my ATU's ground stud to the
>>>>> back
>>>>> of
>>>>> the rig's ground stud, considering my rig has a built in power supply
>>>>> and
>>>>> a
>>>>> 3 prong plug, this will be fine?
>>>>>
>>>>> Mike
>>>>
>>
>
>

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