Steve,

I have been a ham since 1968 and have experienced all that you mentioned and 
it was not in the last 10 years either.

I couldn't have said it better!

73

Howard #3

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steve" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Friday, June 08, 2012 10:48 AM
Subject: Re: confrontation on the air? what do you all think about this 
topic?


> It's a bunch of crap.  If people have a modicum of common sense and
> courtesy, they don't need jerks like that.  The last thing we need in this
> country is a bunch of a-holes trying to be some kind of a self-vigilante.
>
> Hollingsworth wasn't the be-all and end-all in rules enforcement.  A look 
> at
> any of the Happenings columns in QST will affirm that the FCC is still
> involved in rule enforcement.  We don't need a bunch of hams breaking down
> someone's door to take a bootlegged station off the air.  I know 
> monitoring
> stations have really been scaled back, and you have to be really offensive
> to get their attention nowadays.
>
> But, there always has been a lot of different stuff on the air.  Since you
> haven't been a ham vor very long, it might surprise you to know that there
> was a lot of off-color stuff on the 75-meter and 20-meter bands way back 
> in
> the 50s and 60s.  Those of you around the Midwest might remember the 3830
> gang?  Then, there was that group that hung out on 3895.  And, of course,
> there was the kind of war between AM'ers and sidebanders back in the late
> 50s through the late 60s before sideband pretty much took over.  I 
> remember
> those days from when I was a Novice and General.  The only two-meter
> activity was those old Motorola tube AM rigs.
>
> I don't sweat the kind of stuff that goes on.  For the most part, if I 
> don't
> like what I'm listening to, I can just turn the VFO.  It works as well as
> the delete key does for email.
> Steve, K8SP
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: Harry Brown
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2012 6:24 PM
> Subject: confrontation on the air? what do you all think about this topic?
>
>
> Hi all,
> Since we've been talking about different ham radio lingo, etc.
> I wanted to go another direction, and I want to know what you all think.
> As you know, riley Hollingsworth, who was known for this cracking down =
> on rule violaters on the air, isn't doing that any more, since he =
> retired.
> I remember the day when I read that, and I thought to myself, "what will =
> we hams do now?"
> Then, I read an article, that gave me the answer.
> I don't remember where it was, whether in QST, or where it was, but it =
> said something like this, "We hams will have to police the hobby, as the =
> FCC won't have the resources to do it in the future."
> I strongly agree with this article.
> This is our hobby, and the FCC does indeed, not have the resources, and =
> budget cuts will probably make this situation even worse.
> So, how should we police ourselves on the air?
> As a matter of fact, I heard about one way it was done, and I think it's =
> pretty cool.
> A local ham friend of myne was talking to a 4th call area station down =
> in Georgia, and they were having a real enjoyable QSO, and all the =
> sudden, my friend heard this big bang, noise. Another ham grabbed the =
> microphone, and said "this station, ...., is a boot leg station, and =
> will now be taken off the air."
> My ham friend never heard this boot legger station again!
> He said to me, "Trippy, I loved it, absolutely loved it, the hams in =
> that community took matters into their own hands!"
> So, what do you all think about this issue?
> Trippy, ac8s