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colin McDonald <[log in to unmask]>
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colin McDonald <[log in to unmask]>
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but isn't everyone entitled to their opinions, even if others don't agree 
with those opinions?
And because they are opinions, they don't have to be right or wrong.
If my opinion is echolink sucks, and I hate it, then that is my opinion. 
That opinion doesn't go so far as to say no one should use it, and that it 
anyone who does is less than a ham or shouldn't have a license and all that 
crap.
Free speech, and the respect for others right to free speech is becoming a 
thing of the past these days.  So many people take offense to the freedom to 
express oneself, weather right or wrong, that people are very careful to 
state their thoughts outloud.
It's a real shame that this has happened in a part of the world where free 
speech and ones right to an opinion are supposed to be corner stones of our 
civilization.
The other side of that is, the ability to accept someones opinion for what 
it is, and not get all sideways about how it offends this or that.
If someone isn't listening, or paying attension or following clear 
instructions, than it is my right to express my opinion of that persons 
mental state, weather I'm right or wrong about the actual fact.  And it's 
also my right to not be persecuted for making my opinion known on such 
matters.
The great thing about an opinion, is that it can easily be changed with 
updated information and facts.
today my opinion is that a yaesu FT857D is the worst radio ever...tomorrow 
that could change after I've operated the thing for a few hours.
And both opinions are completely and utterly valid.

73
Colin, V A6BKX
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "COLLEEN ROTH" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2012 12:39 PM
Subject: Re: I don't appreciate some comments on this list, and we need to 
think about what we say to people


> Hi,
> I got my Amateur Radio License because I wanted to help with Emergency 
> Communications.
> I got my CB License for the same reason in 1978. When the No-codaye Tech 
> licente became an option in 1992 I took my test and became an Amateur 
> Radio Operator.
> I became a member of NavyCommarine
> Mars in 1995. In 2007 I became a General Class Operator.
> I became an Assistant Net Manager for our Loal Traffic and Training Net in 
> 1993.
> I did everything but generate the monthly reports.
> In 1998 I became Net Manager.
> In 1993 a became a Net Control for Skywarn District Nets.
> In 2008 I became a Net Control Station for the Ohio Single Sideband Net.
> I do not contest, build things, ragchew or read Technical Articles.
> I do help with Emergency Communications and Traffic Handling.
> We all have a niche to fill.
> Since I have been an Assistant Net Manager we have only had one Net which 
> was not covered.
> We meet every day including Christmas and Easter.
> I was not home and the person who was to cover the net fell asleep.
> He is nomally very reliable.
> So you can see we all have things we can do well.
> Personally, I do not like echolink. It is because I do not like all that 
> beeping and waiting. However, we do use it some in Ohio to have people 
> check into a statewide 2-meter net.
> Hope this gives some food for thought.
> If you do not think much of what I do or do not do that is your problem.
> I feel I do what I can do and what I enjoy doing.
> I would not say anthing about what you like to do.
> I understand why people think Echolink isn't Amateur Radio but I also 
> understand that some people have no choice if they are ill and need to be 
> in a living arrangement which does not allow antennas.
> Remember folks that some people are not able to build Antennas or come up 
> with ways to hide them.
> Also remember some people might not have the resources to purchase the 
> equipment they need ! build or purchase such antennas.
> Please try to think before you post something which will be hurtful to 
> others.
> Thanks and have a very blessed Day,
>
> Colleen Roth, N8TNV;
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Harry Brown <[log in to unmask]>
> To:  [log in to unmask]
> Date: Friday, Jun 29, 2012 05:05:21 PM
> Subject: I don't appreciate some comments on this list, and we need to 
> think about what we say to people
>
>>
>>
>> Hi all,
>> I first want to say, that I do appreciate the help I've gotten on this =
>> list.
>> It's a great list to be a part of.
>> However, secondly, I do not appreciate comments like, how I got my =
>> license and that kind of stuff.
>> First of all, folks, you all surely know, right? That most people don't =
>> get their license to build kits, or to be technical. I'm not saying =
>> here, that, technical information isn't good for people. I'm just saying 
>> =
>> you go ask every ham in your local area, "So, why did you get your =
>> license in the first place? They'll probably tell you, "I got it because 
>> =
>> I saw how much fun ham radio is, and I wanted to get on the air and talk 
>> =
>> to other people, or, to get in contests, etc.
>> Now, some people get their licenses because they're technical, but many =
>> don't.
>> We have a problem in the ham community, and, we have it in the computer =
>> community as well. When someone asks how to solve a problem, =
>> technically, so many people get an attitude like, "how did you get your =
>> license?" Or, in the computer community, they say, "you're an iddiot, =
>> can't you figure out how to do things with your computer, what's wrong =
>> with you?"
>> That's why many people don't join computer lists, or ham radio lists, =
>> because the people that are on those lists look down on, or, they have =
>> no patients with anyone.
>> I see it in the ham community, and I see it in the computer community.
>> So, let's not look down on, or get an attitude with anyone, weather on =
>> ham radio, or, on computers.
>> In case you all forgot, we all as I tell folks, so offten on computer =
>> lists, when someone asks, "I hope all won't laugh at me, or this is =
>> probably a dumb question?". There is no dumb question. Not everybody is =
>> a techy. When I'm on the air with someone, I don't ask them, "So, how =
>> much do you know about building rigs, or, how much do you know about =
>> antennas, etc?"
>> Let's just help each other out, in the ham community, or in the computer 
>> =
>> community, alright?
>> Trippy, ac8s 

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