Well first here is how you might be able to help. Compose a nice letter
asking that they consider making the QST from now on accessible to blind
people with screen reader software. Please remember that older issues may
be problematic because of Copy rights. Then offer the letter to the rest of
us to sign and discuss. After that if I like it I will present it to the
folks that I am working with, or you or someone else could send a hard copy
if you don't want me to do it. If a nice letter is written I can say that
it will be heard as mine has been. Gerry WB6IVF
----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Howell" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2012 5:00 PM
Subject: Re: Why I am not a member of Arrl
> Well if there is such a project then tell more. Hey I asked a question, =
> got no useful answer, and was told it would not happen. So, what would =
> you expect anyone to do with that information? Hey I posted a note here =
> and look at the incredible amount of traffic generated as a result. So, =
> if the ARRL is really working on some accessibility to materials, then =
> contact me off list if necessary and tell me what I need to do and who I =
> need to contact to get involved. I'm more than happy to do my part if =
> you tell me where I can start.
>
> 73
> Scott/N3BYY
> On Mar 21, 2012, at 5:35 PM, Gerry Leary wrote:
>
>> The issue in my opinion is Relax Calm down and get together and talk. =
> I=20
>> tried this and it is working. Because I was Nice and Gentle I am now =
> part=20
>> of the accessibility project. So Yes, Relax and become Calmly =
> involved and=20
>> it will work.
>> ----- Original Message -----=20
>> From: "Harry Brown" <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2012 2:37 PM
>> Subject: Re: Why I am not a member of Arrl
>>=20
>>=20
>>> Hi Jerry,
>>> The issue is not relaxing, and I'm glad that people are working on =
> it.
>>> All I'm saying is, in general, in life, don't give people forever, =3D
>>> because they'll take it, and stall as long as they can.
>>> Trippy, ac8s
>>> ----- Original Message -----=3D20
>>> From: Gerry Leary=3D20
>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2012 4:28 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Why I am not a member of Arrl
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> Please relax a little. I and others are working with ARRL right now =
> =3D
>>> to do=3D20
>>> this. It will happen.
>>> ----- Original Message -----=3D20
>>> From: "Harry Brown" <[log in to unmask]>
>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2012 2:05 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Why I am not a member of Arrl
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>>> Hi Mark and all,
>>>> I do agree with you about working within the league, but you need to =
> =3D
>>> set =3D3D
>>>> a deadline.
>>>> Folks, I've learned, through many experiences, (I wish I would have =
> =3D
>>> =3D3D
>>>> learned this principle a long time ago), that you give people =3D
>>> forever, =3D3D
>>>> well, they'll take forever, and nothing will get done. So, if you're =
> =3D
>>> =3D3D
>>>> gonna work with the league, or, really, any company, or =3D
>>> organization, =3D3D
>>>> give them a deadline.
>>>> Don't wait forever.
>>>> Trippy, ac8s
>>>> ----- Original Message -----=3D3D20
>>>> From: mark=3D3D20
>>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2012 10:14 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: Why I am not a member of Arrl
>>>>=20
>>>>=20
>>>> Hi
>>>> I agree that working with in the League is probably our best =3D
>>> bet. =3D3D
>>>> Most
>>>> sighted people want to be helpful to blind people, or at least this =
> =3D
>>> is =3D3D
>>>> my
>>>> experience.
>>>>=20
>>>> God bless, and 73,
>>>> Mark WZ0K ARRL life member
>>>>=20
>>>> God Loves you!
>>>> You can visit my website at:
>>>> http://christiantraditions.info
>>>> Please visit my blog at:
>>>> http://christian-traditions.blogspot.com
>>>>=20
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: For blind ham radio operators =3D3D
>>>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>>>> On Behalf Of PATRICK GORMLEY
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2012 4:51 AM
>>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>>> Subject: Re: Why I am not a member of Arrl
>>>>=20
>>>> Howard accessibility via an alternative method is not the best =3D3D
>>>> approach. We
>>>>=20
>>>> don't have to be beligerent but we do have to make them aware of =3D
>>> =3D3D
>>>> problems=3D3D20
>>>> such as this. Let's do what we can to make it as accessible as =3D3D
>>>> possible. I
>>>>=20
>>>> haven't seen the digital edition yet so I can't comment now. All I =
> =3D
>>> =3D3D
>>>> hope is=3D3D20
>>>> they sidn't use some sort of desktop publishing software to put it =3D=
>
>>> =3D3D
>>>> together.
>>>>=20
>>>> That's a whole other can of worms to open up since those packages =3D
>>> read =3D3D
>>>> their
>>>>=20
>>>> own formats and don't read earlier or later editions of the same =3D
>>> =3D3D
>>>> package.=3D3D20
>>>> If it's going to bed made available to the general membership, then =
> =3D
>>> it =3D3D
>>>> needs
>>>>=20
>>>> to be accessible. I'm going to use whatever influence I have as a =3D=
>
>>> =3D3D
>>>> league=3D3D20
>>>> member to make this happen. Betsy k1eic is sm in Conneticut. Also =
> =3D
>>> =3D3D
>>>> Tony=3D3D20
>>>> Olivero ao9d does technology evaluations for the international =3D
>>> Braille =3D3D
>>>> and=3D3D20
>>>> Technology Center and can evaluate the June issue when it comes =3D
>>> out. =3D3D
>>>> If=3D3D20
>>>> it's not accessible then let's put our ham ingenuity to good use =3D
>>> and =3D3D
>>>> come up
>>>>=20
>>>> with one and then offer our expertise to the League since members =3D
>>> of =3D3D
>>>> the=3D3D20
>>>> League are the league itself. 73- pat kk3f
>>>> ----- Original Message -----=3D3D20
>>>> From: "Howard Kaufman" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2012 10:41 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: Why I am not a member of Arrl
>>>>=20
>>>>=20
>>>>> Now let me get this, qst is available free of charge from BARD, =3D
>>> and =3D3D
>>>> has=3D3D20
>>>>> been
>>>>> available free for members of ARRL and non-members of ARRL as =3D
>>> well. =3D3D
>>>> The
>>>>> staff member of ARRL did not know this. Somehow this isn't a =3D3D
>>>> reasonable
>>>>> accommodation? Why isn't this a reasonable accommodation? =3D
>>> Sounds =3D3D
>>>> quite
>>>>> reasonable to me. Its accessible and free to boot. Since the =3D
>>> =3D3D
>>>> person
>>>>> calling and asking the question didn't apparently realize that =3D
>>> =3D3D
>>>> accessible
>>>>> QST is already available from BARD, he can't blame the ARRL staff =3D=
>
>>> =3D3D
>>>> member=3D3D20
>>>>> for
>>>>> not knowing that fact either.
>>>>> Sounds like we have a tempest in a teapot here.
>>>>> Just get it from BARD download it, listen and enjoy. Their is no =3D=
>
>>> =3D3D
>>>> problem
>>>>> here and no solution is necessary.
>>>>> Now how many acronyms are their in this message?
>>>>>=20
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