Contact your arrl division director.
Barb K1EIR
-----Original Message-----
From: For blind ham radio operators [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
On Behalf Of Scott Howell
Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2012 7:00 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Why I am not a member of Arrl
Well if there is such a project then tell more. Hey I asked a question, =
got no useful answer, and was told it would not happen. So, what would = you
expect anyone to do with that information? Hey I posted a note here = and
look at the incredible amount of traffic generated as a result. So, = if the
ARRL is really working on some accessibility to materials, then = contact me
off list if necessary and tell me what I need to do and who I = need to
contact to get involved. I'm more than happy to do my part if = you tell me
where I can start.
73
Scott/N3BYY
On Mar 21, 2012, at 5:35 PM, Gerry Leary wrote:
> The issue in my opinion is Relax Calm down and get together and talk.
> =
I=20
> tried this and it is working. Because I was Nice and Gentle I am now
> =
part=20
> of the accessibility project. So Yes, Relax and become Calmly =
involved and=20
> it will work.
> ----- Original Message -----=20
> From: "Harry Brown" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2012 2:37 PM
> Subject: Re: Why I am not a member of Arrl =20 =20
>> Hi Jerry,
>> The issue is not relaxing, and I'm glad that people are working on =
it.
>> All I'm saying is, in general, in life, don't give people forever,
>>=3D because they'll take it, and stall as long as they can.
>> Trippy, ac8s
>> ----- Original Message -----=3D20
>> From: Gerry Leary=3D20
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2012 4:28 PM
>> Subject: Re: Why I am not a member of Arrl =20 =20 Please relax a
>>little. I and others are working with ARRL right now =
=3D
>> to do=3D20
>> this. It will happen.
>> ----- Original Message -----=3D20
>> From: "Harry Brown" <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2012 2:05 PM
>> Subject: Re: Why I am not a member of Arrl =20 =20
>>> Hi Mark and all,
>>> I do agree with you about working within the league, but you need to
>>> =
=3D
>> set =3D3D
>>> a deadline.
>>> Folks, I've learned, through many experiences, (I wish I would have
>>> =
=3D
>> =3D3D
>>> learned this principle a long time ago), that you give people =3D
>> forever, =3D3D
>>> well, they'll take forever, and nothing will get done. So, if you're
>>> =
=3D
>> =3D3D
>>> gonna work with the league, or, really, any company, or =3D
>> organization, =3D3D
>>> give them a deadline.
>>> Don't wait forever.
>>> Trippy, ac8s
>>> ----- Original Message -----=3D3D20
>>> From: mark=3D3D20
>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2012 10:14 AM
>>> Subject: Re: Why I am not a member of Arrl =20 =20 Hi
>>> I agree that working with in the League is probably our best =3D
>> bet. =3D3D
>>> Most
>>> sighted people want to be helpful to blind people, or at least this =
=3D
>> is =3D3D
>>> my
>>> experience.
>>>=20
>>> God bless, and 73,
>>> Mark WZ0K ARRL life member
>>>=20
>>> God Loves you!
>>> You can visit my website at:
>>> http://christiantraditions.info
>>> Please visit my blog at:
>>> http://christian-traditions.blogspot.com
>>>=20
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: For blind ham radio operators =3D3D
>>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>>> On Behalf Of PATRICK GORMLEY
>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2012 4:51 AM
>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>> Subject: Re: Why I am not a member of Arrl
>>>=20
>>> Howard accessibility via an alternative method is not the best =3D3D
>>> approach. We
>>>=20
>>> don't have to be beligerent but we do have to make them aware of =3D
>> =3D3D
>>> problems=3D3D20
>>> such as this. Let's do what we can to make it as accessible as =3D3D
>>> possible. I
>>>=20
>>> haven't seen the digital edition yet so I can't comment now. All I =
=3D
>> =3D3D
>>> hope is=3D3D20
>>> they sidn't use some sort of desktop publishing software to put it =3D=
>> =3D3D
>>> together.
>>>=20
>>> That's a whole other can of worms to open up since those packages =3D
>> read =3D3D
>>> their
>>>=20
>>> own formats and don't read earlier or later editions of the same =3D
>> =3D3D
>>> package.=3D3D20
>>> If it's going to bed made available to the general membership, then =
=3D
>> it =3D3D
>>> needs
>>>=20
>>> to be accessible. I'm going to use whatever influence I have as a =3D=
>> =3D3D
>>> league=3D3D20
>>> member to make this happen. Betsy k1eic is sm in Conneticut. Also =
=3D
>> =3D3D
>>> Tony=3D3D20
>>> Olivero ao9d does technology evaluations for the international =3D
>> Braille =3D3D
>>> and=3D3D20
>>> Technology Center and can evaluate the June issue when it comes =3D
>> out. =3D3D
>>> If=3D3D20
>>> it's not accessible then let's put our ham ingenuity to good use =3D
>> and =3D3D
>>> come up
>>>=20
>>> with one and then offer our expertise to the League since members =3D
>> of =3D3D
>>> the=3D3D20
>>> League are the league itself. 73- pat kk3f
>>> ----- Original Message -----=3D3D20
>>> From: "Howard Kaufman" <[log in to unmask]>
>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2012 10:41 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Why I am not a member of Arrl
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>>> Now let me get this, qst is available free of charge from BARD, =3D
>> and =3D3D
>>> has=3D3D20
>>>> been
>>>> available free for members of ARRL and non-members of ARRL as =3D
>> well. =3D3D
>>> The
>>>> staff member of ARRL did not know this. Somehow this isn't a =3D3D
>>> reasonable
>>>> accommodation? Why isn't this a reasonable accommodation? =3D
>> Sounds =3D3D
>>> quite
>>>> reasonable to me. Its accessible and free to boot. Since the =3D
>> =3D3D
>>> person
>>>> calling and asking the question didn't apparently realize that =3D
>> =3D3D
>>> accessible
>>>> QST is already available from BARD, he can't blame the ARRL staff =3D=
>> =3D3D
>>> member=3D3D20
>>>> for
>>>> not knowing that fact either.
>>>> Sounds like we have a tempest in a teapot here.
>>>> Just get it from BARD download it, listen and enjoy. Their is no =3D=
>> =3D3D
>>> problem
>>>> here and no solution is necessary.
>>>> Now how many acronyms are their in this message?
>>>>=20
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