I'm still not sure I believe it. Maybe that's because I have little faith in
relay tuners in radios, I just don't think there's enough there to make it
tune that high and a meter on the output will never tell you how high it
will go unless you turn the tuner off and check it then on. While the
tuner's on, it can change what the external swr meter sees coming in, so can
give you strange readings. You want to test that, turn off your internal
tuner, check the swr on the tw-1 or tuner of choice, especially if it's a
band your tuner needs a lot of work on tuning, then turn it on tuned, though
the swr meter is past the output of the radio, it will usually s how higher.
Maybe someday I'll have a 480 and see for myself, but right now I have no
interest or money. My TS-2000 will have to last me a very long time and as
often as I use it with NTS nets and what not and when I'm bored and want to
do some DX, I'm really putting it to the test. That new TH-D72A comes out
soon and I can unload most of my HT collection to afford it it will get used
even more but I have stuff to sell first and I don't know what.
----- Original Message -----
From: "tom behler" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 6:58 AM
Subject: Re: Looking for a blind friendly antenna tuner?
> John:
>
> Yeah, I hear what you are saying, but I think Howard is right; the TS480
> auto-tuner seems to be unusually forgiving, but like you, I won't operate
> on
> an antenna with an SWR of greater than 3 to 1, if I can help it.
>
> And, a manual tuner does come in handy in those rare situations where the
> auto-tuner just can't cut it.
>
> 73 from Tom Behler: KB8TYJ
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John Miller" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Monday, November 29, 2010 9:56 PM
> Subject: Re: Looking for a blind friendly antenna tuner?
>
>
> the auto tuner in a radio can't be used with an amp anyway, it would have
> no
> effect what so ever. The amp would still have the nice mismatch. I've
> never
> heard of an internal tuner, especially the relay ones that would tune
> anything higher than 3:1 so if you want to tune something higher than that
> you probably want something external but I'd tent to opt for an antenna
> that's under 3:1 on the bands you use.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "tom behler" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Monday, November 29, 2010 9:16 PM
> Subject: Re: Looking for a blind friendly antenna tuner?
>
>
>> With all due respect, I agree with what Howard is saying here.
>>
>> I have found the auto-tuner in the TS480 to be very forgiving.
>>
>> I do use a manual tuner as well, but only when using my Ameritron Al811H
>> amplifier, since the auto-tuner in the TS480 would probably be vaporized
>> with the higher power level.
>>
>> 73 from Tom Behler: KB8TYJ
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Howard Kaufman" <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Monday, November 29, 2010 9:14 PM
>> Subject: Re: Looking for a blind friendly antenna tuner?
>>
>>
>> What does a signal to noise ratio have to do with a tuner?
>> The tuner in the 480 will tune anything under 8-1. They have no idea
>> what
>> they are talking about!
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