well no i did not see them everywhere. 
my son wrapping up the associates degree in georgia
before transferring to Auburn was in an attempted
mugging. he and a friend studying late went for food
and 2 men tried to mug them. they are okay, those two
nerd boys packed more punch than the muggers expected.

i'll still be glad when he leaves the city.  

--- Trisha Cummings <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> Ken,
>  
>   I have no problem with some scenic overlooks with
> guard rails - but not the whole park. You made it
> sound like the entire rim should have guard rails
> against the off chance someone might tumble over -
> Amber and I went to there when she was about 7-8 and
> we sat right on the edge and looked over . Went to
> one of the scenic overlooks also - and stood back
> from the rail. Amber is doing fine - by the way. She
> is taking some summer courses and then will graduate
> and move on to a graduate program. Not sure which
> one or where - she is still looking. Saw Betty not
> to long ago - she is doing okay.
>  
>                             Trisha
>  
> 
> ________________________________
> 
> From: Cerebral Palsy List on behalf of ken barber
> Sent: Thu 4/10/2008 1:52 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: actually linda is right
> 
> 
> 
> you are right they, but those of us that are
> unstesdy
> pwd will never get close to seeing some sights. i
> hope
> if you ever go to the canyon, that amber is steady
> enough to enjoy it. 
> --- Trisha Cummings <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> 
> > Actually, Ken - I wouldn't have guard rails - if
> you
> > are stupid enough
> > to get to close to the edge and fall over - it's
> > your own fault - half
> > of what is wrong with society is we baby people
> and
> > don't make them
> > responsible for their actions or make excuses for
> > them. You can't
> > mollycoddle people so they are safe forever and
> life
> > is not fair -
> > people today think that they should have
> everything,
> > they should be safe
> > in their cars no matter how stupid they drive,
> etc.
> > And if this doesn't
> > happen - its someone's else fault and they need to
> > make a law so that
> > people wear their seat belts - cars have air bags
> -
> > or sue someone or
> > declare bankruptcy etc. Cars, ideas and guns
> aren't
> > dangerous until they
> > get in the hands of idiots - which is a large
> > portion of the population.
> > Also people really want to stay in their comfort
> > zones and forward
> > thinking people with new ideas have had to fight
> to
> > get every single
> > improvement from the flat earth theory- to women
> > being property -
> > changed. It's always different if it's you - so
> you
> > want to make sure
> > you get your disability rights - but gay people
> > shouldn't have their
> > rights - Rights I think should be for everyone -
> as
> > long as someone is
> > not being harmed - same gender marriage hurts no
> one
> > - rape hurts
> > everyone. Children are to be protected - they are
> > the future. What you
> > and many people want is everything spelled out and
> > certain and everyone
> > being a cookie cutter person and safe. Ain't going
> > to happen - can't
> > make it happen. This kind of stagnation spells the
> > end. We grow thru
> > change - and people hate change and  fight change
> -
> > which is why it
> > takes generations before - we get actually get an
> > across the board
> > change - look at the people still fighting the
> civil
> > war .....  sheesh
> >
> >
> >                       Trisha
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Cerebral Palsy List
> > [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf
> > Of ken barber
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 3:13 PM
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: actually linda is right
> >
> > you would not remove the guard rails that are at
> the
> > cliff edges at the grand canyon because of what is
> > likely to happen.
> >
> > you don't ignore the slippery slope that is there
> > because it is prudent to look at what is likely to
> > happen.
> >
> > nothing to do with morals; everything to do with
> > good
> > common sense.
> >
> > --- Trisha Cummings <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Ken,
> > >
> > >   You know the one thing I learned while I was
> > > teaching in that
> > > Christian private school - is those people are
> > very
> > > sincere in their
> > > beliefs - and no I never mentioned I am Pagan
> nor
> > > argued with one thing
> > > said. As I said I learned they honestly and
> > > sincerely believe what they
> > > believe. And so it is everyone - so why would
> > anyone
> > > think they would
> > > bring you around to their way of thinking - we
> can
> > > never change anyone's
> > > mind - they have see beyond the horizon of their
> > > boundaries - a
> > > uncomfortable play to be.
> > >
> > > I have no problem with gay marriages - if
> polygamy
> > > were a voluntary
> > > state - not a brainwasher slave state - I could
> > > perhaps see it but for
> > > the most part since we have no positive role
> > models
> > > here - it's hard to
> > > make a judgement on it. I can see jealousy being
> a
> > > major factor in it
> > > not being successful. I really don't think
> anyone
> > > backs pedifiles. Of
> > > course you do have some laws for young
> marriages.
> > I
> > > think the thing is
> > > view each item on its own merits and not lump
> them
> > > together because it
> > > might lead down a slippery slope - blanket
> > > com=ndemning things - could
> > > be seen as going down a slippery slope also.
> > >
> > >               Oooops got to run.....        
> > Trisha
> > > (who is taking her
> > > Mom shopping)
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Cerebral Palsy List
> > > [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf
> > > Of ken barber
> > > Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 4:36 PM
> > > To: [log in to unmask]
> > > Subject: actually linda is right
> > >
> > > actually linda is right on the fact that i do
> not
> > > post
> > > much of controversy direct to the list as much
> as
> > i
> > > once did. i am following the advice that i give
> my
> > > son
> > > "choose your fights well and be sure they are
> > worth
> > > the efford you are going to have to put in
> them."
> > i
> 
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