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Lynn Evans <[log in to unmask]>
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Lynn Evans <[log in to unmask]>
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Nice try there Harry:

So if I have cerebral palsy and just don't have the coordination to operate 
the type of equipment you suggest then I am locked out of your program.



So if I don't have the mental acuity to learn all this technology (it is a 
mighty steep learning curve) then I am locked out of your program.



The vast majority of NLS patrons are not as computer savvy as most of us on 
this list or do they want to be.   They just want to listen to books with a 
human voice.



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Sun Sounds of Arizona" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 5:23 PM
Subject: Re: [VICUG-L] let's really think about this talking book situation


: Dear Harry from Michigan,
:
: Though I hear what you are saying, and I do not plan to flame you, your 
view
: misses several key points.
:
: First off, your proposed solution will be of very limited use to the vast
: majority of blind people who are of advanced age.  This older group is the
: biggest group of blind people, and also the biggest users of the current
: system.  The learning curve on  what you propose is just not practical for
: all of those people.
:
: Secondly:  The vast majority of blind people we've spoken with prefer 
human
: reading far more than synthetic speech.  Even counting the great expansion
: in audio books which have become available commercially, it's still only a
: drop in the bucket.  The vast majority of books would have to be read 
using
: synthetic speech, or in a very small number of cases, refreshable Braille.
:
: Thirdly:  Why is it that we always have to give up one technology to make
: room for another.  What blind people have really lacked is choices.  Your
: solution would just replace one system with strengths and weaknesses with
: another system with strengths and weaknesses.  Those of us who can, 
already
: use technology like that which you suggest to augment our book reading. 
But
: why should we who can,  totally cut off those who cannot.  Why should we
: deny ourselves the extra option too.  Personally, even though I use JAWS 
and
: Scanners, and Computers, I still very much enjoy hearing a well read book
: with a human reader from the NLS.
:
: Finally:  Ultimately, I think some common solution will overtake all the
: current systems for accessing literature and other information.  But until
: that day, still some time off, we as blind consumers should have choices,
: and an array of options to fit our individual preferences and needs.
:
: Bill from Arizona
:
:
: -----Original Message-----
: From: Visually Impaired Computer Users' Group List
: [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of [log in to unmask]
: Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 1:41 PM
: To: [log in to unmask]
: Subject: [VICUG-L] let's really think about this talking book situation
:
: Hi all,
: Before I get flamed on this, because I'm sure I will, hear me out on this,
: ok?
: I have a better idea for the talking book program than what everybody is
: screaming for, at the moment.
: First, the current talking book program was useful, but is not useful any
: more.  It's not because even if we go digital, we're still going to see 
only
: 20000 books produced each year, and how many books are published annually?
: Try about 6000000, or more.  So, the program is not even keeping up with 
the
: number of books being published, so, what are the blind and disabled? 
Still
: 2nd class citizens, not keeping up on equal footing with able bodied 
folks.
: Now, is there a better way?  You bet there is, and here it is.
: There are 2 better options.
: 1.  Instead, use that 20 billion dollars a year to buy a handheld reading
: machine for every blind and disabled person.  This way they can read 
books,
: mail, you name it, any printed document they like.
: 2.  Even better, buy every blind and disabled person in America a fully
: functioning pocket handheld computer, which can run Windows XP, or, 
Windows
: Vista, and include a scanner with it, also either Kurzweil, openbook, or,
: VIP reading software, so then they can read documents as mentioned in 1
: above.  Then, also include in that package, either Jaws for Windows, 
Window
: Eyes, or, Freedom Box's System access, which would give them internet 
access
: and word processing.
: So folks, there are better ways of doing things then we have done them.
: This will give the blind and disabled much more access to information, 
than
: they would have through talking books.
: If you agree with this, you may modify it, and send it all over the
: internet, and to ACB and NFB, for being introduced as a resolution at 
their
: conventions.
: Let's change the way the blind and disabled get access, not only to the
: printed word, but to all information.
: Harry from Michigan
:
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