great idea to contact the union - and you're right about the fire co - the firemen i;ve met have been good guys....i meant LA county as a whole seems huge.? the union is great though - i think this is a matter of finding the one person who understands and cares. i don't think it'll be truly resolved with the first few?phone calls.? i really, really appreciate your ideas.? thank you.
-----Original Message-----
From: Linda Walker <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask]
Sent: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 12:29 pm
Subject: Re: Beach
Actually LA Co fire is not bad. I would contact the local union and
ask who attends the democratic state conventions or who is the
political rep. They should help with this. When I used to attend that
it was firefighters local 1014. I think but they would probably love
to make this right. If not they would probably know who to contact.
Access is an issue Democrats care about.
At 05:32 PM 9/5/2007, you wrote:
>It's the LA County - lifeguards are under the LA County fire dept.?
>It's a state beach, but even the state has no control.? I wish they
>were Santa Monica employees because then there would be more hope of
>the problem being truly corrected.
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Linda Walker <[log in to unmask]>
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Sent: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 3:44 am
>Subject: Re: Beach
>
>
>
>I am very familiar with that beach and I am shocked that would happen
>there. I hope you can get their names. They are county employees I
>think and LA County is a place they should know better, every place
>is but especially a county so big. The only other thing is they may
>be Santa Monica City employees. Do you know? Either way these are
>sophisticated communities with well developed human rights organizations.
>
>At 11:22 PM 9/4/2007, you wrote:
> >Hello everyone,
> >
> >Sorry I'm a little quiet. I'm not myself, but don't
> worry Meir. You didn't
> >scare me off. On the contrary, I really appreciated your response and
> >everyone else's too. I couldn't get back online for a long time
> >after I posted
> >and then I was sort of speechless after reading through the
> >posts. It just got
> >to me to have support and I didn't know what to say.
> >
> >To answer a few things that were asked or mentioned -- I'm in LA and the
> >beach is Will Rodgers (a very public beach). Neither time was I
> >near the water
> >- in fact, when the worst thing happened I was sitting fully
> clothed - shoes
> >and all - on the beach (he saw me walk from my car) so I don't think they
> >were worried about me swimming. Plenty of people walk on
> >that beach and never
> >swim. Its not unusual there. They just saw the way I walked and jumped to
> >conclusions. And they weren't even polite about it - that's not
> >acceptable for
> >public employees at a beach. We pay their salaries. Even if they are
> >ignorant, they can be polite.
> >
> >And Mag, I love your idea about a day at the beach for my friends with
> >disabilities. If only I knew enough people to go for it. With my
> >luck though, the
> >nice guards would be on duty that day - there are some good ones which just
> >proves to me that the bad ones don't have to be that way. It
> is possible to
> >hire and/or train good people. It does piss me off too now that I've begun
> >thinking how inacessible these beaches are. It's
> >not right and I'm ashamed I didn't think of it more before but
> most people I
> >know who have disabilities couldn't even get to the sand.
> >
> >Linda, I am working on a letter to your son. It's hard for me not to write
> >a really emotional letter, so I'm going slowly and editing so that
> >it's short
> >and clear. Thank you very much for the contact.
> >
> >Gosh, I want to thank every one.......... Kendall, I contacted the
> >disability comission and they've sent papers, but all they can do is
> >file an informal
> >complaint. I have a friend at PAI I'll talk to Thurs. And
> Ken, I've already
> >called a law office because the only guy directly above the head of the
> >lifeguards.........not hopeful. Not at all.
> >
> >Deri - I like the insensitive moron theory! I don't think it's a labor
> >dispute though I do wonder if there is some internal problem. A
> >few years ago,
> >all the guards were totally cool. I even know a kid with CP whom
> >they used to
> >carry down to the beach because he was too big for his mom to carry. That
> >would flip these guys out now.
> >
> >Heather, Kat, Linda (maxaudio) and Meir - thanks for the encouragement!!
> >I'm sorry to read about your incident Meir and I'm glad you're ok.
> >
> >If there's someone I didn't mention, yell at me. There's not one email i
> >didn't appreciate.
> >
> >it's gotten me down because i have a lot to deal with (cp being
> the least of
> >it at times). i know a lot of people have lots to cope with so i'm no big
> >deal, but i really needed one thing to be hassle free. now even the beach
> >seems complicated.
> >
> >i will let you all know what happens and thanks again for all your support!
> >
> >susie
> >
> >
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