great idea to contact the union - and you're right about the fire co - the firemen i;ve met have been good guys....i meant LA county as a whole seems huge.? the union is great though - i think this is a matter of finding the one person who understands and cares. i don't think it'll be truly resolved with the first few?phone calls.? i really, really appreciate your ideas.? thank you. -----Original Message----- From: Linda Walker <[log in to unmask]> To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 12:29 pm Subject: Re: Beach Actually LA Co fire is not bad. I would contact the local union and ask who attends the democratic state conventions or who is the political rep. They should help with this. When I used to attend that it was firefighters local 1014. I think but they would probably love to make this right. If not they would probably know who to contact. Access is an issue Democrats care about. At 05:32 PM 9/5/2007, you wrote: >It's the LA County - lifeguards are under the LA County fire dept.? >It's a state beach, but even the state has no control.? I wish they >were Santa Monica employees because then there would be more hope of >the problem being truly corrected. > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Linda Walker <[log in to unmask]> >To: [log in to unmask] >Sent: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 3:44 am >Subject: Re: Beach > > > >I am very familiar with that beach and I am shocked that would happen >there. I hope you can get their names. They are county employees I >think and LA County is a place they should know better, every place >is but especially a county so big. The only other thing is they may >be Santa Monica City employees. Do you know? Either way these are >sophisticated communities with well developed human rights organizations. > >At 11:22 PM 9/4/2007, you wrote: > >Hello everyone, > > > >Sorry I'm a little quiet. I'm not myself, but don't > worry Meir. You didn't > >scare me off. On the contrary, I really appreciated your response and > >everyone else's too. I couldn't get back online for a long time > >after I posted > >and then I was sort of speechless after reading through the > >posts. It just got > >to me to have support and I didn't know what to say. > > > >To answer a few things that were asked or mentioned -- I'm in LA and the > >beach is Will Rodgers (a very public beach). Neither time was I > >near the water > >- in fact, when the worst thing happened I was sitting fully > clothed - shoes > >and all - on the beach (he saw me walk from my car) so I don't think they > >were worried about me swimming. Plenty of people walk on > >that beach and never > >swim. Its not unusual there. They just saw the way I walked and jumped to > >conclusions. And they weren't even polite about it - that's not > >acceptable for > >public employees at a beach. We pay their salaries. Even if they are > >ignorant, they can be polite. > > > >And Mag, I love your idea about a day at the beach for my friends with > >disabilities. If only I knew enough people to go for it. With my > >luck though, the > >nice guards would be on duty that day - there are some good ones which just > >proves to me that the bad ones don't have to be that way. It > is possible to > >hire and/or train good people. It does piss me off too now that I've begun > >thinking how inacessible these beaches are. It's > >not right and I'm ashamed I didn't think of it more before but > most people I > >know who have disabilities couldn't even get to the sand. > > > >Linda, I am working on a letter to your son. It's hard for me not to write > >a really emotional letter, so I'm going slowly and editing so that > >it's short > >and clear. Thank you very much for the contact. > > > >Gosh, I want to thank every one.......... Kendall, I contacted the > >disability comission and they've sent papers, but all they can do is > >file an informal > >complaint. I have a friend at PAI I'll talk to Thurs. And > Ken, I've already > >called a law office because the only guy directly above the head of the > >lifeguards.........not hopeful. Not at all. > > > >Deri - I like the insensitive moron theory! I don't think it's a labor > >dispute though I do wonder if there is some internal problem. A > >few years ago, > >all the guards were totally cool. I even know a kid with CP whom > >they used to > >carry down to the beach because he was too big for his mom to carry. That > >would flip these guys out now. > > > >Heather, Kat, Linda (maxaudio) and Meir - thanks for the encouragement!! > >I'm sorry to read about your incident Meir and I'm glad you're ok. > > > >If there's someone I didn't mention, yell at me. There's not one email i > >didn't appreciate. > > > >it's gotten me down because i have a lot to deal with (cp being > the least of > >it at times). i know a lot of people have lots to cope with so i'm no big > >deal, but i really needed one thing to be hassle free. now even the beach > >seems complicated. > > > >i will let you all know what happens and thanks again for all your support! > > > >susie > > > > > > > >************************************** Get a sneak peek of the > all-new AOL at > >http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour > > > >----------------------- > > > >To change your mail settings or leave the C-PALSY list, go here: > > > >http://listserv.icors.org/SCRIPTS/WA-ICORS.EXE?SUBED1=c-palsy > >----------------------- > >To change your mail settings or leave the C-PALSY list, go here: > >http://listserv.icors.org/SCRIPTS/WA-ICORS.EXE?SUBED1=c-palsy > > >________________________________________________________________________ >Email and AIM finally together. 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