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ken barber <[log in to unmask]>
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where you been. i have forgotten what this is and will
have to get back to it again now. its a busy time,
but, i'll try to get back to it as quick as i can. 

--- "Kendall D. Corbett" <[log in to unmask]>
wrote:

> Tell us what's in error or is a deliberate
> misrepresentation, then, Ken
> 
> Kendall
> 
> On 10/27/06, ken barber <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > be a good article if it were true.
> >
> > --- "Kendall D. Corbett"
> <[log in to unmask]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Another interesting POV on the Michael J. Fox -
> Rush
> > > Limbaugh brouhaha
> > > (I've always wanted to use that word!)  ;-{)}
> > >
> > >
> >
>
http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/nation/ny-usads264948265oct26,0,6443351.story?coll=ny-uspolitics-headlines
> > >
> > > Kendall
> > >
> > > On 10/27/06, ken barber <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
> > > > thanks for the articles. there are those that
> > > state
> > > > just the oposite. i do not know which
> scienctist
> > > are
> > > > right.
> > > >
> > > > --- "Kendall D. Corbett"
> > > <[log in to unmask]>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Article on use of embryonic stem cell use in
> > > > > Parkinsons
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> http://www.pnas.org/cgi/content/abstract/99/4/2344
> > > > >
> > > > > Another article:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> http://ask.lub.lu.se/archive/00016097/01/nm1064.pdf
> > > > >
> > > > > states that there is little evidence that
> other
> > > > > types of stem cells
> > > > > work as well as embryonic cells:
> > > > >
> > > > >  "Neurons with dopaminergic phenotype
> surviving
> > > > > transplantation have
> > > > > been generated in culture from mouse and
> monkey
> > > > > embryonic stem cells
> > > > > (ESCs) and from neural stem cells (NSC's)
> > > derived
> > > > > from the fetal
> > > > > rodent and human brain.  There is little
> > > evidence
> > > > > that dopaminergic
> > > > > neurons can be made from NSCs in adult brain
> or
> > > from
> > > > > stem cells in
> > > > > other tissues."
> > > > >
> > > > > (Page 2 of the PDF, near the bottom of the
> left
> > > > > column.)
> > > > >
> > > > > Kendall
> > > > >
> > > > > On 10/27/06, Joshua Snyder
> <[log in to unmask]>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > A while back, I remember a scientist
> stating
> > > that
> > > > > such
> > > > > > problems were likely with embryonic stem
> > > cells,
> > > > > but
> > > > > > not with adult (cord blood) stem cells.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Two years ago, Miss Hwang Mi-soon was made
> to
> > > walk
> > > > > for
> > > > > > the first time after 19 years with adut
> stem
> > > cell
> > > > > > therapy:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
http://times.hankooki.com/lpage/tech/200412/kt2004120317543511780.htm
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The story was buried:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> http://www.lewrockwell.com/sardi/sardi58.html
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We have to ask, why the huge push (and
> > > funding)
> > > > > for
> > > > > > embryonic stem cell research from the same
> > > folks
> > > > > who
> > > > > > want an abortuary in every neighborhood?
> Why
> > > the
> > > > > > elaborate ruse to divert us away from cord
> > > blood
> > > > > stem
> > > > > > cells?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- "Kendall D. Corbett"
> > > > > <[log in to unmask]>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Ken and Kat,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I also wonder what would have happened
> had
> > > the
> > > > > study
> > > > > > > used rat stem
> > > > > > > cells rather than human stem cell
> implanted
> > > in
> > > > > rats.
> > > > > > >  A woman I worked
> > > > > > > with had a kidney transplant several
> years
> > > back,
> > > > > and
> > > > > > > later developed a
> > > > > > > tumor in that kidney and ureter.  I'm
> not
> > > saying
> > > > > for
> > > > > > > sure it was some
> > > > > > > form of auto immune response, but I'd
> think
> > > the
> > > > > > > likelihood of an
> > > > > > > autoimmune elated cancer developing
> would be
> > > > > higher
> > > > > > > when cros-species
> > > > > > > transplantation is performed.  I'm not
> > > > > advocating
> > > > > > > doing experimental
> > > > > > > research on humans, but a check to see
> if
> > > tumors
> > > > > > > develop in rats with
> > > > > > > Parkinson's who are given rat stem cells
> > > would
> > > > > seem
> > > > > > > logical.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Kendall
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On 10/27/06, Kathleen Salkin
> > > > > <[log in to unmask]>
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > The study was truly inconclusive as
> they
> > > > > killed
> > > > > > > the test animals
> > > > > > > > before any tumors formed.   So we
> don't
> > > know
> > > > > if
> > > > > > > the tumors would have
> > > > > > > > been benign or malignant, or even if
> they
> > > > > would
> > > > > > > have formed.  Also,
> > > > > > > > would this have been the result of
> > > short-term
> > > > > > > treatment or long-
> > > > > > > > term?  Too many questions to be really
> > > > > conclusive.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Kat
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On 27 Oct 2006, at 00:37, Kendall D.
> > > Corbett
> > > > > > > wrote:
> 
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