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Louis Kim Kline <[log in to unmask]>
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For blind ham radio operators <[log in to unmask]>
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Sun, 24 Sep 2006 17:35:05 -0400
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Oops!

73, de Lou K2LKK



At 01:29 PM 9/24/2006 -0400, you wrote:
>If I did that the message would like something we saw earlier this week
>lol.
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Louis Kim Kline" <[log in to unmask]>
>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 1:12 PM
>Subject: Re: Heads up: NortonAntivirus/Norton Internet Security 2007
>incompatib...
>
>
> > Tell us how you really feel!
> > --Lou, K2LKK
> >
> >
> >
> > At 12:21 PM 9/24/2006 -0400, you wrote:
> >>that god awful 7.1 just came out a couple months ago, I believe 8.0 is
> >>waiting for Vista's release, or the date to be set at least.
> >>----- Original Message -----
> >>From: "T Behler" <[log in to unmask]>
> >>To: <[log in to unmask]>
> >>Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 11:36 AM
> >>Subject: Re: Heads up: NortonAntivirus/Norton Internet Security 2007
> >>incompatib...
> >>
> >>
> >> >    Harvey and all:
> >> >
> >> > I don't know if it'd do any good, but maybe  someone on the list would
> >> > like
> >> > to forward this info onto the tech people at Freedom Scientific, so
> >> > that
> >> > they could start designing a fix for the problem for the next major
> >> > Jaws
> >> > upgrade.
> >> >
> >> > In fact, now that I think of it, isn't it about time for Jaws 8.0 to
> >> > come
> >> > out?
> >> >
> >> > I thought the new upgrades came out in September, or at least sometime
> >> > in
> >> > the Fall of each year.
> >> >
> >> > Anyway, this is just a thought.
> >> >
> >> > 73 from Tom Behler: KB8TYJ
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > From: "Harvey" <[log in to unmask]>
> >> > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> >> > Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 11:24 AM
> >> > Subject: Fw: Heads up: NortonAntivirus/Norton Internet Security 2007
> >> > incompatib...
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> Keep in mind that this is one person's opinion, but I thought maybe
> >> >> people
> >> >> should see this who are thinking of buying Norton 2007.  73.
> >> >> Harvey Heagy (N.5.H.A.U.)
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Hello, As a long time user of Symantec products, I am saddened to
> >> >> inform
> >> >> everyone that the new Norton 2007 products are no longer compatible
> >> >> with
> >> >> Jaws. After purchasing Norton Internet Security 2007, and performing
> >> >> extensive testing on it, I've determined the following.
> >> >> * A blind person is unable to activate the product without sighted
> >> >> assistance. if Jaws is loaded, the Activation program immediately
> >> >> quits,
> >> >> rather than displaying its dialogs. This happens during the setup
> >> >> process,
> >> >> and causes your installation to be left in an unusable state. Fixing
> >> >> this
> >> >> requires sighted assistance to get through the activation process, at
> >> > which
> >> >> time the product (mostly) repairs itself.
> >> >> * Once the product is installed, configuration is exceedingly
> >> >> difficult.
> >> > The
> >> >> software is completely inaccessible from the keyboard, Unlike it
> >> >> previous
> >> >> versions the interface does not appear to take advantage of the
> >> >> Windows
> >> >> built in html rendering facilities, instead using its own rendering
> >> > method.
> >> >> All configuration must be done with the jaws cursor, and Jaws's
> >> >> ability
> >> >> to
> >> >> see things like buttons is eratic at best. (admittedly, it may be
> >> >> possible
> >> >> to improve this via the use of a tool like Hotspot clicker, but
> >> >> getting
> >> >> to
> >> > a
> >> >> state where you could would require heavy sighted intevention, and its
> >> >> questionable as to whether it would be worth it.) * When the product
> >> >> tries
> >> >> to alert with Jaws loaded (at least on my machine), it instead blue
> >> > screens
> >> >> and reboots. I tested this with the standard antivirus test. Eicar?
> >> >> (not sure on the spelling), which is a harmless .com file intended to
> >> >> do
> >> >> nothing but trigger antivirus products. (all products use this as a
> >> >> standard, "hello world" test.)
> >> >>
> >> >> The combination of the three above points leads me to believe that
> >> >> ongoing
> >> >> persistance with this product would prove fruitless.
> >> >> (Note: while I did not perform testing with Window Eyes, it has been
> >> >> my
> >> >> experience in the past that WE has been less effective at accessing
> >> >> the
> >> >> Norton interfaces when they were accessible, so I have no reason to
> >> > believe,
> >> >> and hence no inclination to try it, that the situation with 2007 would
> >> >> be
> >> >> any better, in fact, I suspect it would be dramaticly worse).
> >> >>
> >> >> This message is a heads up to advise others not to buy the Norton
> >> >> 2007 products. if you are a Norton user, stick with 2006, as that is,
> >> >> at
> >> >> least, accessible. If not, then it looks like its now time to find a
> >> >> new
> >> >> package.
> >> >>
> >> >
> >
> > Louis Kim Kline
> > A.R.S. K2LKK
> > Home e-mail:  [log in to unmask]
> > Work e-mail:  [log in to unmask]
> > Work Telephone:  (585) 697-5753
> >

Louis Kim Kline
A.R.S. K2LKK
Home e-mail:  [log in to unmask]
Work e-mail:  [log in to unmask]
Work Telephone:  (585) 697-5753 

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