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John Miller <[log in to unmask]>
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Sun, 24 Sep 2006 13:29:34 -0400
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If I did that the message would like something we saw earlier this week 
lol.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Louis Kim Kline" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 1:12 PM
Subject: Re: Heads up: NortonAntivirus/Norton Internet Security 2007 
incompatib...


> Tell us how you really feel!
> --Lou, K2LKK
>
>
>
> At 12:21 PM 9/24/2006 -0400, you wrote:
>>that god awful 7.1 just came out a couple months ago, I believe 8.0 is
>>waiting for Vista's release, or the date to be set at least.
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "T Behler" <[log in to unmask]>
>>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 11:36 AM
>>Subject: Re: Heads up: NortonAntivirus/Norton Internet Security 2007
>>incompatib...
>>
>>
>> >    Harvey and all:
>> >
>> > I don't know if it'd do any good, but maybe  someone on the list would
>> > like
>> > to forward this info onto the tech people at Freedom Scientific, so 
>> > that
>> > they could start designing a fix for the problem for the next major 
>> > Jaws
>> > upgrade.
>> >
>> > In fact, now that I think of it, isn't it about time for Jaws 8.0 to 
>> > come
>> > out?
>> >
>> > I thought the new upgrades came out in September, or at least sometime 
>> > in
>> > the Fall of each year.
>> >
>> > Anyway, this is just a thought.
>> >
>> > 73 from Tom Behler: KB8TYJ
>> >
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Harvey" <[log in to unmask]>
>> > To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> > Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 11:24 AM
>> > Subject: Fw: Heads up: NortonAntivirus/Norton Internet Security 2007
>> > incompatib...
>> >
>> >
>> >> Keep in mind that this is one person's opinion, but I thought maybe
>> >> people
>> >> should see this who are thinking of buying Norton 2007.  73.
>> >> Harvey Heagy (N.5.H.A.U.)
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Hello, As a long time user of Symantec products, I am saddened to 
>> >> inform
>> >> everyone that the new Norton 2007 products are no longer compatible 
>> >> with
>> >> Jaws. After purchasing Norton Internet Security 2007, and performing
>> >> extensive testing on it, I've determined the following.
>> >> * A blind person is unable to activate the product without sighted
>> >> assistance. if Jaws is loaded, the Activation program immediately 
>> >> quits,
>> >> rather than displaying its dialogs. This happens during the setup
>> >> process,
>> >> and causes your installation to be left in an unusable state. Fixing 
>> >> this
>> >> requires sighted assistance to get through the activation process, at
>> > which
>> >> time the product (mostly) repairs itself.
>> >> * Once the product is installed, configuration is exceedingly 
>> >> difficult.
>> > The
>> >> software is completely inaccessible from the keyboard, Unlike it 
>> >> previous
>> >> versions the interface does not appear to take advantage of the 
>> >> Windows
>> >> built in html rendering facilities, instead using its own rendering
>> > method.
>> >> All configuration must be done with the jaws cursor, and Jaws's 
>> >> ability
>> >> to
>> >> see things like buttons is eratic at best. (admittedly, it may be
>> >> possible
>> >> to improve this via the use of a tool like Hotspot clicker, but 
>> >> getting
>> >> to
>> > a
>> >> state where you could would require heavy sighted intevention, and its
>> >> questionable as to whether it would be worth it.) * When the product
>> >> tries
>> >> to alert with Jaws loaded (at least on my machine), it instead blue
>> > screens
>> >> and reboots. I tested this with the standard antivirus test. Eicar?
>> >> (not sure on the spelling), which is a harmless .com file intended to 
>> >> do
>> >> nothing but trigger antivirus products. (all products use this as a
>> >> standard, "hello world" test.)
>> >>
>> >> The combination of the three above points leads me to believe that
>> >> ongoing
>> >> persistance with this product would prove fruitless.
>> >> (Note: while I did not perform testing with Window Eyes, it has been 
>> >> my
>> >> experience in the past that WE has been less effective at accessing 
>> >> the
>> >> Norton interfaces when they were accessible, so I have no reason to
>> > believe,
>> >> and hence no inclination to try it, that the situation with 2007 would 
>> >> be
>> >> any better, in fact, I suspect it would be dramaticly worse).
>> >>
>> >> This message is a heads up to advise others not to buy the Norton
>> >> 2007 products. if you are a Norton user, stick with 2006, as that is, 
>> >> at
>> >> least, accessible. If not, then it looks like its now time to find a 
>> >> new
>> >> package.
>> >>
>> >
>
> Louis Kim Kline
> A.R.S. K2LKK
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> 

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