Oh, wow!  I think I might like this idea?  See, Haruna, what did I tell you? 
The interchanging of our names was bound to confuse some people!  Hmmm, so 
whdaya think?  The Gambia Post power couple?  Kinda like Jay-Z and Beyonce? 
Just kidding!


     This is all just getting to be too funny!  "just concentrate on the 
issues", they say, while they continue the mud-slinging and dirt-digging! 
While all the while claiming the moral high ground, and intellectual 
superiority to everyone else, especially those they don't agree with.

Ginny





----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Pa Morro Jallow" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 9:45 AM
Subject: Re: How The Presidential Nomonation Went On In The gambia


> Ginny:
>
> No one is trying to stop your freedom of speech. You can talk all you want 
> for all I care. However, when you consistently meddle in a divisive way in 
> our national affairs you are bound to be met all the way and then some. 
> You sound like the stranger who comes to a home and starts instigating 
> some members of the family against the others.
>
> I've two suggestions for you and I hope you'll take heed. First, get 
> married to Haruna. The two of you can run his GDP dinosaur. He'll be the 
> CEO, COO, CFO, the Board, etc. and you, the typist, for it seems you like 
> typing.  Do you really use taxpayers' money to spend all this time 
> chatting online and meddling in other people's business?
>
> Next, you and hubby Oustaz wal Majnoon Haruna should open up a Koranic 
> school somewhere in the South and save some of the lost souls in that 
> area.  Just don't provoke the KKK. You can also fight against drugs that 
> are leading so many of your youths to desperate acts of murder. Help the 
> homeless and while you are at it, campaign for more democracy and an end 
> to hanging 'chads', the respect for civil liberties, and for the political 
> empowerment of black folk in the US. You'd have so many issues to fight 
> for that you'll forget about NADD, PDOIS/NDAM, UDP/PPP, UDP/NRP, UDP/Amat 
> Bah.
>
> You see, Haruna may take pity on you and save you from the beatings that 
> he meted out to the other women.  What a couple that would be, Mrs. Ginny 
> Darbo(e)!  Chei! Whatever Haruna says, Ginny does!  The perfect couple! 
> Just watch out though, he is bound to get violent whenever he fails to 
> take his anti-depressants.
>
> Your tendency to swing at anything that is non-UDP or anti-Haruna has 
> blinded you (no pun intended) to the fact that Gambians are better off 
> united at this crucial juncture of our history than being at each other's 
> throats.  You act as if you are the only non-Gambian subscribed to these 
> lists.  I'll no longer treat your postings here with kid's gloves.  You've 
> long over-stayed your welcome!  Ndaawsi dafa lakale waay!
>
> Pa Morro
>
>
>
>>From: Ginny Quick <[log in to unmask]>
>>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list 
>><[log in to unmask]>
>>To: [log in to unmask]
>>Subject: Re: How The Presidential Nomonation Went On In The gambia
>>Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 10:31:27 -0500
>>
>>     Greetings, Malanding, et al.  Actually, this is really nothing
>>new.  I think that if I agreed with Pa Morro and like-minded people,
>>then my race / ethnicity would not even figure into this discussion.
>>However, since I do not agree with him, then some reason has to be
>>advanced for why I should not, or why I don't have a right to,
>>contribute to this forum / discussion.  If the discussions that have
>>gone on on the Gambia Post are any indication, even if I was Gambian,
>>then I still would be held as having no right to speak, because if
>>it's not the race / ethnicity card being played, then it would be the
>>"tribalism" labal, or some other such labal which is designed to
>>silence descent / disagreement.
>>
>>
>>     What I find sad, though, is that people who support the so-called
>>opposition, are, to my mind, trying to employ the same tactics as the
>>regime they claim to dispise and want to get rid of, in the name of
>>free speech, the rule of law, etc.
>>
>>
>>     What these people try to do is silence people who don't agree
>>with them, either through character assassination, threats, or
>>intimidation, etc.  And I, personally, would not want these people
>>having any kind of power over anyone, should they ever come into a
>>position of power.  They also seem to display a sycophantic attitude
>>toward their leader / party of choice which they support.  And how is
>>this any different from the Jammeh / APRC supporters?
>>
>>     You can't say that you support people's right or freedom to
>>choose, and yet lambast them or speak badly of them, simply because
>>they chose a party that you don't like.  I may not agree with the
>>APRC, but at the end of the day, if you truly believe in democracy and
>>the Gambian people's right to choose, they indeed have the right to
>>vote for the APRC, if they truly feel that the party truly represents
>>their best interests.  Most of us may not like that, and we may feel
>>that this is not the best thing for The Gambia, and it may not be, but
>>if you truly believe in democracy / the will of the people, then you
>>have to accept that they may not vote the way *you* would want them to
>>vote, and they may even vote against what *you* think may be their
>>best interests.  But if you believe in democracy, then it is *their*
>>right to do this, if you say you support the will of the people.
>>
>>
>>     If you say you support democracy / the will of the people, yet
>>seek to find ways to silence them, or make them marginal, or only
>>support them when they agree with what you feel is right, then this is
>>hypocritical.  Meaning that trying to silence someone because they
>>don't agree with you, because they are of a different tribe / race /
>>nationality / mindset as you, is not right, and you can't then claim
>>that you support democracy / the rule of law, because in actuality,
>>you do not.  Or, at least, you only support it when it is in agreement
>>with your opinion, or your party of support.
>>
>>
>>     Trying to make me, or others who do not agree with you as
>>irrelevant, by making issue out of their race or nationality is just
>>an attempt to silence someone that you do not agree with, and is not,
>>by nature, democratic.  Because again, I reiterate that if I agreed
>>with Pa Morro and others, who hold his same opinion, I'd instead be
>>touted as being sane and level-headed.  But since I *don't* agree with
>>him, then some "reasons" have to be advanced for why I should not be
>>allowed to voice my opinion or speak on a given issue.  And this is so
>>Jammeh / APRC-esque.
>>
>>
>>Ginny
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>On 8/30/06, Malanding Jaiteh <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>Mr. Jallow,
>>>I am sure you are a very smart man to be told this but should it matter
>>>whether Ginny is white/black/Gambian/American to contribute to this 
>>>forum?
>>>
>>>Malanding Jaiteh
>>>
>>>Pa Morro Jallow wrote:
>>>
>>> > Ginny,
>>> > It's about time you know that this is a GAMBIAN problem and as such
>>> > you need to stay away from our business.
>>> > Did you watch the MALCOLM X movie ? If you did, then did you remember
>>> > the part that the white lady was saying all kind off stuff to Malcolm
>>> > to try help.....
>>> > Did you recall brother Malcolm's response ?
>>> >
>>> > I say to you we don't need your help and stay away from our freaking
>>> > business.
>>> >
>>> > Go fight for the injustice that the White Majority is imposing on
>>> > Black america.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Stay 100000000000 feet away from our business. You are damn too
>>> > freaking annoying.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Pa Morro
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >> [ This e-mail is posted to Gambia|Post e-Gathering by "Ginny Quick"
>>> >> <[log in to unmask]> ]
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Greetings all. So unless we declare the PDOIS/NDAM/NADD, or
>>> >> whatever, crowds the largest, most jubilant, and most vocal
>>> >> supporters, to attend the Nomination Day proceedings, and unless we
>>> >> don't support and hold Halifa Sallah with the Messiaonic zeal and
>>> >> esteem which his supporters do, then we will forever be "biased".
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> How is The Gambia Journal biased? Because they didn't fall at
>>> >> Halifa Sallah's feet and declare him the best thing to happen to The
>>> >> Gambia since Independence?
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> And people want to say that the APRC supporters are the only
>>> >> people who display sycophancy? I'd say that if you can't take anyone
>>> >> even remotely suggesting that Halifa Sallah isn't this perfect and
>>> >> infallible leader who truly has the support of The Gambian people,
>>> >> though they don't know it yet, or, if he doesn't, then the Gambian
>>> >> people are just too stupid and ignorant to know what's good for them,
>>> >> then I'd dare say that that is sycophantic, and one wonders how these
>>> >> people would act if they ever got into positions of power. Would we
>>> >> start seeing suppression of opinions, descension, trying to get 
>>> >> around
>>> >> the so-called "rule of law" when things aren't going your way?
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> I mean, look how these people react to people who don't agree
>>> >> with them? I mean, note Pa Samba's foul-mouthed response to Haruna
>>> >> Darbo (on the Gambia Post)? Among other things?
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Judging by how these people act now, I definitely would not want
>>> >> them representing me, that is for sure.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Ginny
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> On 8/29/06, Pasamba Jow <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>> [ This e-mail is posted to Gambia|Post e-Gathering by "Pasamba 
>>> >>> Jow" ]
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Yusupha,
>>> >>> I was constantly on the phone with people on the ground during and
>>> >>> after
>>> >>> the nomination and no one suggested that the NADD crowd was smaller.
>>> >>> After
>>> >>> reading this story, i called an independent person who disputed the
>>> >>> Journal's story.
>>> >>> On another note Mrs. Amie Sillah-Sarr was picked today at 12.15
>>>Gambia
>>> >>> time, but have been released after five hours of detention at the
>>>NIA.
>>> >>> Pasamba
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> ________________________________
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> From: "Yusupha Jow" <[log in to unmask]>
>>> >>> Reply-To: [log in to unmask]
>>> >>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>> >>> Subject: Re: [>-<] How The Presidential Nomonation Went On In The
>>> >>> gambia
>>> >>> Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 13:32:27 -0700
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Pa Samba:
>>> >>> Is the info incorrect? Please clarify.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Thanks!
>>> >>> Yusupha
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On 8/29/06, Pasamba Jow <[log in to unmask]
>>> >>> > wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> [ This e-mail is posted to Gambia|Post e-Gathering by "Pasamba 
>>> >>> Jow" ]
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Once again the Gambia Journal has demonstrated its biasness. To
>>> >>> suggest that
>>> >>> NADD had a lesser crowd is outright nonesense. I just cannot
>>> >>> understand why
>>> >>> people would distort information just to satisfy themeselves. NADD
>>> >>> is on the
>>> >>> move and no amount of distortion will hold us back.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Pasamba Jow
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> ________________________________
>>> >>>
>>> >>> From: "Luntang" <[log in to unmask]
>>> >>>
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> Reply-To: [log in to unmask]
>>> >>> To: "GAMBIA -L@
>>> >>>
>>> >>> LISTSERV.ICORS.ORG" <[log in to unmask]>
>>> >>> CC: "gambia post" <
>>> >>>
>>> >>> [log in to unmask]>
>>> >>> Subject: [>-<] How The Presidential Nomonation Went On In The gambia
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 20:03:46 +0200
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Daily News
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> How THe Presdential Nomination Went on in the Gambia
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> By Mohammed L Sillah and Mbaye B sarr
>>> >>> Aug 29, 2006, 08:35
>>> >>> On Monday 28th August 2006, tens of thousands of Gambians thronged
>>> >>> the main
>>> >>> streets adjacent to the office of the IEC(Independent Electoral
>>> >>> Commission)
>>> >>> to cheer their choice of candidates for the coming September 22nd
>>> >>> presidential election. There were also many who were casual
>>> >>> onlookers and
>>> >>> passers-by out to look at the spectacle of a military occupation of
>>> >>> the area. Hundreds of soldiers and other security details were all
>>>over
>>> >>> stopping all traffic as well as pedestians along the
>>> >>>
>>> >>> main Kairaba Avenue in
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Serekunda. Already by 09.00hrs in the morning people dressed in 
>>> >>> their
>>> >>> various party colors were jam-packed in cars, vans and even trucks
>>> >>> drumming
>>> >>> and singing. One could see about a dozen forty-footer lorries,
>>> >>> belonging to
>>> >>> Yahya Jammeh's privately owned Kaninlai Farms filled with singing 
>>> >>> and
>>> >>> clapping people, mostly women, dressed in APRC uniform-type clothing
>>> >>> that
>>> >>> bear the pictures of President Jammeh and his wife. Everywhere in 
>>> >>> the
>>> >>> neighborhood, people seemed to be in a carnival mood.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Though it proved out that the day was not an official public holiday
>>>as
>>> >>> many people had feared, few could be reached in their offices, most
>>> >>> especially civil servants. This harassed professional caste of
>>> >>> Gambians had
>>> >>> been compelled to buy the uniforms from their heads of Departments,
>>>the
>>> >>> Gambia Journal has learnt, wear them in the morning and made sure
>>>they
>>> >>> were visibly present during the nomination exercise. Even many
>>>private
>>> >>> sector players felt compelled to also attend the nominations dressed
>>> >>> in the
>>> >>> ruling party's campaign gears. According to IEC regulations each
>>> >>> presidential candidate had to pay a deposit of D 10,000 and must be
>>> >>> nominated by 5000 registered voters. They also had to register
>>> >>> thesupport of
>>> >>> at least 200 registered voters in each of the seven administrative
>>> >>> areas to
>>> >>> be qualified as presidential candidates
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> The
>>> >>>
>>> >>> NADD crowd who walked and drove slowly behind Hon. Halifa Sallah,
>>> >>> dressed in
>>> >>> blue haftan gown and escorted by Wa Juwara, Seedia Jatta, Landing
>>> >>> Jallow
>>> >>> Sonko and other members of the party's Executive Committee. A 
>>> >>> notable
>>> >>> absentee was
>>> >>>
>>> >>> O.J. Jallow, former Minister of Agriculture of the First Republic
>>> >>> who is now
>>> >>> an Executive Committee Member of NADD. We hear he has taken ill and
>>> >>> being
>>> >>> hospitalize at the West Field Clinic. According to the time schedule
>>> >>> for the
>>> >>> nomination Hon.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Halifa Sallah, presidential candidate for National Alliance for
>>> >>> Democracy
>>> >>> and Development (NADD) should have been the first on the row of
>>> >>> four, to
>>> >>> tender his nomination documents at 10:00am but he arrived late. Mr.
>>> >>> Sallah
>>> >>> said later that he came late because he and his followers were
>>> >>> stopped by
>>> >>> soldiers guarding the West Field Junction. They were forced to use a
>>> >>> long
>>> >>> detour. He
>>> >>>
>>> >>> protested strongly against that action of the soldiers, say he and
>>>his
>>> >>> supporter would not be intimidated. Though the crowd following Mr.
>>> >>> Sallah
>>> >>> was relatively small, , they were highly spirited. So Mr. Sallah;s
>>> >>> nomination was done just after
>>> >>>
>>> >>> 11.00 hrs. He later talked to journalists, denouncing the Jammeh
>>> >>> government
>>> >>> as "a failure" and promising a five-year transition of rectification
>>>if
>>> >>> NADD should win te presidential election.
>>> >>> Then came President Jammeh's nomination team, that was the largest.
>>> >>> He was
>>> >>> to have submitted his nomination papers by
>>> >>>
>>> >>> 11.00, but that had been disrupted by the late arrival of the NADD
>>> >>> procession. The din of drumming, dancing and singing filled the air
>>> >>> erupting
>>> >>> out of a sea of people dressed in green. Two days ago, state media
>>> >>> started
>>> >>> calling on APRC supporters from all over the country to come and
>>> >>> join the
>>> >>> nomination. The announcements
>>> >>>
>>> >>> said that President Jammeh was
>>> >>> inviting all of them to a match by foot to Banjul where a feast of
>>>free
>>> >>> food awaited. After his nomination the Gambian leader was true to
>>> >>> the words
>>> >>> of the announcement and led his supporters to Banjul.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> After this came the UDP procession led by Lawyer Ousainou Darbo,
>>> >>> Hamat Bah
>>> >>> and other prominent leaders of the UDP/NRP Alliance. The size of
>>>their
>>> >>> crowd surprised many as very little political rallies have yet been
>>> >>> seen
>>> >>> organized by the Alliance, especially in the Greater Banjul Area. 
>>> >>> The
>>> >>> turnout was very big and only a little less than of incumbent
>>>President
>>> >>> Jammeh, if the 25 000 that some APRC militants boast is right, then
>>>the
>>> >>> UDP/NRP crowd could be safely taken as 20 000, determined and
>>> >>> enthusiastic
>>> >>> people. Already on Sunday evening, the massive size and spirited
>>>people
>>> >>> coming from the UDP/NRP rally at the opposition-stronghold of Bakau
>>> >>> should
>>> >>> have served as an indication. The Gambia Journal has learnt that the
>>> >>> police
>>> >>> wanted to revoke the permits for that meeting at the last minute on
>>> >>> Sunday,
>>> >>> August 27th. But Mr. Darboe who talked over the
>>> >>>
>>> >>> telephone with the Inspector General of Police, was said to have
>>>flatly
>>> >>> refused to call off the meeting. We learned the Minister of the
>>> >>> Interior
>>> >>> later called Lawyer Darboe apologizing for the incident. Mr. Darboe
>>> >>> and his
>>> >>> crowd later held a well attended meeting at the square adjacent to
>>> >>> the Latri
>>> >>> Kunda Mosque.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Last to arrive at the IEC headquarters to be nominated was Mr. Henry
>>> >>> Gomez
>>> >>> of the GPDP (Gambia Peoples Democratic Party), a newly formed party
>>> >>> headed
>>> >>> by a Gambian resident in Germany. Citing Section 62, C, of the
>>> >>> constitution,
>>> >>> the IEC refused to accept Mr. Gomez's nomination based on a 
>>> >>> residency
>>> >>> argument. The IEC holds it that Mr. Gomez had not been continuously
>>> >>> resident
>>> >>> in The Gambia long enough. Mr. Gomez was obviously upset by the
>>> >>> turning down
>>> >>> of his nomination and claimed it was because only he could defeat
>>> >>> Jammeh.
>>> >>> Now that the
>>> >>>
>>> >>> nominations have been dawn and the way open for a three=way
>>> >>> presidential
>>> >>> contest., many people are praying for a peaceful election.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
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>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
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