Greetings, Malanding, et al. Actually, this is really nothing
new. I think that if I agreed with Pa Morro and like-minded people,
then my race / ethnicity would not even figure into this discussion.
However, since I do not agree with him, then some reason has to be
advanced for why I should not, or why I don't have a right to,
contribute to this forum / discussion. If the discussions that have
gone on on the Gambia Post are any indication, even if I was Gambian,
then I still would be held as having no right to speak, because if
it's not the race / ethnicity card being played, then it would be the
"tribalism" labal, or some other such labal which is designed to
silence descent / disagreement.
What I find sad, though, is that people who support the so-called
opposition, are, to my mind, trying to employ the same tactics as the
regime they claim to dispise and want to get rid of, in the name of
free speech, the rule of law, etc.
What these people try to do is silence people who don't agree
with them, either through character assassination, threats, or
intimidation, etc. And I, personally, would not want these people
having any kind of power over anyone, should they ever come into a
position of power. They also seem to display a sycophantic attitude
toward their leader / party of choice which they support. And how is
this any different from the Jammeh / APRC supporters?
You can't say that you support people's right or freedom to
choose, and yet lambast them or speak badly of them, simply because
they chose a party that you don't like. I may not agree with the
APRC, but at the end of the day, if you truly believe in democracy and
the Gambian people's right to choose, they indeed have the right to
vote for the APRC, if they truly feel that the party truly represents
their best interests. Most of us may not like that, and we may feel
that this is not the best thing for The Gambia, and it may not be, but
if you truly believe in democracy / the will of the people, then you
have to accept that they may not vote the way *you* would want them to
vote, and they may even vote against what *you* think may be their
best interests. But if you believe in democracy, then it is *their*
right to do this, if you say you support the will of the people.
If you say you support democracy / the will of the people, yet
seek to find ways to silence them, or make them marginal, or only
support them when they agree with what you feel is right, then this is
hypocritical. Meaning that trying to silence someone because they
don't agree with you, because they are of a different tribe / race /
nationality / mindset as you, is not right, and you can't then claim
that you support democracy / the rule of law, because in actuality,
you do not. Or, at least, you only support it when it is in agreement
with your opinion, or your party of support.
Trying to make me, or others who do not agree with you as
irrelevant, by making issue out of their race or nationality is just
an attempt to silence someone that you do not agree with, and is not,
by nature, democratic. Because again, I reiterate that if I agreed
with Pa Morro and others, who hold his same opinion, I'd instead be
touted as being sane and level-headed. But since I *don't* agree with
him, then some "reasons" have to be advanced for why I should not be
allowed to voice my opinion or speak on a given issue. And this is so
Jammeh / APRC-esque.
Ginny
On 8/30/06, Malanding Jaiteh <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Mr. Jallow,
> I am sure you are a very smart man to be told this but should it matter
> whether Ginny is white/black/Gambian/American to contribute to this forum?
>
> Malanding Jaiteh
>
> Pa Morro Jallow wrote:
>
> > Ginny,
> > It's about time you know that this is a GAMBIAN problem and as such
> > you need to stay away from our business.
> > Did you watch the MALCOLM X movie ? If you did, then did you remember
> > the part that the white lady was saying all kind off stuff to Malcolm
> > to try help.....
> > Did you recall brother Malcolm's response ?
> >
> > I say to you we don't need your help and stay away from our freaking
> > business.
> >
> > Go fight for the injustice that the White Majority is imposing on
> > Black america.
> >
> >
> > Stay 100000000000 feet away from our business. You are damn too
> > freaking annoying.
> >
> >
> > Pa Morro
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> [ This e-mail is posted to Gambia|Post e-Gathering by "Ginny Quick"
> >> <[log in to unmask]> ]
> >>
> >>
> >> Greetings all. So unless we declare the PDOIS/NDAM/NADD, or
> >> whatever, crowds the largest, most jubilant, and most vocal
> >> supporters, to attend the Nomination Day proceedings, and unless we
> >> don't support and hold Halifa Sallah with the Messiaonic zeal and
> >> esteem which his supporters do, then we will forever be "biased".
> >>
> >>
> >> How is The Gambia Journal biased? Because they didn't fall at
> >> Halifa Sallah's feet and declare him the best thing to happen to The
> >> Gambia since Independence?
> >>
> >>
> >> And people want to say that the APRC supporters are the only
> >> people who display sycophancy? I'd say that if you can't take anyone
> >> even remotely suggesting that Halifa Sallah isn't this perfect and
> >> infallible leader who truly has the support of The Gambian people,
> >> though they don't know it yet, or, if he doesn't, then the Gambian
> >> people are just too stupid and ignorant to know what's good for them,
> >> then I'd dare say that that is sycophantic, and one wonders how these
> >> people would act if they ever got into positions of power. Would we
> >> start seeing suppression of opinions, descension, trying to get around
> >> the so-called "rule of law" when things aren't going your way?
> >>
> >>
> >> I mean, look how these people react to people who don't agree
> >> with them? I mean, note Pa Samba's foul-mouthed response to Haruna
> >> Darbo (on the Gambia Post)? Among other things?
> >>
> >>
> >> Judging by how these people act now, I definitely would not want
> >> them representing me, that is for sure.
> >>
> >>
> >> Ginny
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 8/29/06, Pasamba Jow <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >>
> >>> [ This e-mail is posted to Gambia|Post e-Gathering by "Pasamba Jow" ]
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Yusupha,
> >>> I was constantly on the phone with people on the ground during and
> >>> after
> >>> the nomination and no one suggested that the NADD crowd was smaller.
> >>> After
> >>> reading this story, i called an independent person who disputed the
> >>> Journal's story.
> >>> On another note Mrs. Amie Sillah-Sarr was picked today at 12.15 Gambia
> >>> time, but have been released after five hours of detention at the NIA.
> >>> Pasamba
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ________________________________
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> From: "Yusupha Jow" <[log in to unmask]>
> >>> Reply-To: [log in to unmask]
> >>> To: [log in to unmask]
> >>> Subject: Re: [>-<] How The Presidential Nomonation Went On In The
> >>> gambia
> >>> Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 13:32:27 -0700
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Pa Samba:
> >>> Is the info incorrect? Please clarify.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks!
> >>> Yusupha
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 8/29/06, Pasamba Jow <[log in to unmask]
> >>> > wrote:
> >>>
> >>> [ This e-mail is posted to Gambia|Post e-Gathering by "Pasamba Jow" ]
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Once again the Gambia Journal has demonstrated its biasness. To
> >>> suggest that
> >>> NADD had a lesser crowd is outright nonesense. I just cannot
> >>> understand why
> >>> people would distort information just to satisfy themeselves. NADD
> >>> is on the
> >>> move and no amount of distortion will hold us back.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Pasamba Jow
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ________________________________
> >>>
> >>> From: "Luntang" <[log in to unmask]
> >>>
> >>> >
> >>> Reply-To: [log in to unmask]
> >>> To: "GAMBIA -L@
> >>>
> >>> LISTSERV.ICORS.ORG" <[log in to unmask]>
> >>> CC: "gambia post" <
> >>>
> >>> [log in to unmask]>
> >>> Subject: [>-<] How The Presidential Nomonation Went On In The gambia
> >>>
> >>> Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 20:03:46 +0200
> >>>
> >>>
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> >>>
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> >>> Daily News
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> >>>
> >>> How THe Presdential Nomination Went on in the Gambia
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> By Mohammed L Sillah and Mbaye B sarr
> >>> Aug 29, 2006, 08:35
> >>> On Monday 28th August 2006, tens of thousands of Gambians thronged
> >>> the main
> >>> streets adjacent to the office of the IEC(Independent Electoral
> >>> Commission)
> >>> to cheer their choice of candidates for the coming September 22nd
> >>> presidential election. There were also many who were casual
> >>> onlookers and
> >>> passers-by out to look at the spectacle of a military occupation of
> >>> the area. Hundreds of soldiers and other security details were all over
> >>> stopping all traffic as well as pedestians along the
> >>>
> >>> main Kairaba Avenue in
> >>>
> >>> Serekunda. Already by 09.00hrs in the morning people dressed in their
> >>> various party colors were jam-packed in cars, vans and even trucks
> >>> drumming
> >>> and singing. One could see about a dozen forty-footer lorries,
> >>> belonging to
> >>> Yahya Jammeh's privately owned Kaninlai Farms filled with singing and
> >>> clapping people, mostly women, dressed in APRC uniform-type clothing
> >>> that
> >>> bear the pictures of President Jammeh and his wife. Everywhere in the
> >>> neighborhood, people seemed to be in a carnival mood.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Though it proved out that the day was not an official public holiday as
> >>> many people had feared, few could be reached in their offices, most
> >>> especially civil servants. This harassed professional caste of
> >>> Gambians had
> >>> been compelled to buy the uniforms from their heads of Departments, the
> >>> Gambia Journal has learnt, wear them in the morning and made sure they
> >>> were visibly present during the nomination exercise. Even many private
> >>> sector players felt compelled to also attend the nominations dressed
> >>> in the
> >>> ruling party's campaign gears. According to IEC regulations each
> >>> presidential candidate had to pay a deposit of D 10,000 and must be
> >>> nominated by 5000 registered voters. They also had to register
> >>> thesupport of
> >>> at least 200 registered voters in each of the seven administrative
> >>> areas to
> >>> be qualified as presidential candidates
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> The
> >>>
> >>> NADD crowd who walked and drove slowly behind Hon. Halifa Sallah,
> >>> dressed in
> >>> blue haftan gown and escorted by Wa Juwara, Seedia Jatta, Landing
> >>> Jallow
> >>> Sonko and other members of the party's Executive Committee. A notable
> >>> absentee was
> >>>
> >>> O.J. Jallow, former Minister of Agriculture of the First Republic
> >>> who is now
> >>> an Executive Committee Member of NADD. We hear he has taken ill and
> >>> being
> >>> hospitalize at the West Field Clinic. According to the time schedule
> >>> for the
> >>> nomination Hon.
> >>>
> >>> Halifa Sallah, presidential candidate for National Alliance for
> >>> Democracy
> >>> and Development (NADD) should have been the first on the row of
> >>> four, to
> >>> tender his nomination documents at 10:00am but he arrived late. Mr.
> >>> Sallah
> >>> said later that he came late because he and his followers were
> >>> stopped by
> >>> soldiers guarding the West Field Junction. They were forced to use a
> >>> long
> >>> detour. He
> >>>
> >>> protested strongly against that action of the soldiers, say he and his
> >>> supporter would not be intimidated. Though the crowd following Mr.
> >>> Sallah
> >>> was relatively small, , they were highly spirited. So Mr. Sallah;s
> >>> nomination was done just after
> >>>
> >>> 11.00 hrs. He later talked to journalists, denouncing the Jammeh
> >>> government
> >>> as "a failure" and promising a five-year transition of rectification if
> >>> NADD should win te presidential election.
> >>> Then came President Jammeh's nomination team, that was the largest.
> >>> He was
> >>> to have submitted his nomination papers by
> >>>
> >>> 11.00, but that had been disrupted by the late arrival of the NADD
> >>> procession. The din of drumming, dancing and singing filled the air
> >>> erupting
> >>> out of a sea of people dressed in green. Two days ago, state media
> >>> started
> >>> calling on APRC supporters from all over the country to come and
> >>> join the
> >>> nomination. The announcements
> >>>
> >>> said that President Jammeh was
> >>> inviting all of them to a match by foot to Banjul where a feast of free
> >>> food awaited. After his nomination the Gambian leader was true to
> >>> the words
> >>> of the announcement and led his supporters to Banjul.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> After this came the UDP procession led by Lawyer Ousainou Darbo,
> >>> Hamat Bah
> >>> and other prominent leaders of the UDP/NRP Alliance. The size of their
> >>> crowd surprised many as very little political rallies have yet been
> >>> seen
> >>> organized by the Alliance, especially in the Greater Banjul Area. The
> >>> turnout was very big and only a little less than of incumbent President
> >>> Jammeh, if the 25 000 that some APRC militants boast is right, then the
> >>> UDP/NRP crowd could be safely taken as 20 000, determined and
> >>> enthusiastic
> >>> people. Already on Sunday evening, the massive size and spirited people
> >>> coming from the UDP/NRP rally at the opposition-stronghold of Bakau
> >>> should
> >>> have served as an indication. The Gambia Journal has learnt that the
> >>> police
> >>> wanted to revoke the permits for that meeting at the last minute on
> >>> Sunday,
> >>> August 27th. But Mr. Darboe who talked over the
> >>>
> >>> telephone with the Inspector General of Police, was said to have flatly
> >>> refused to call off the meeting. We learned the Minister of the
> >>> Interior
> >>> later called Lawyer Darboe apologizing for the incident. Mr. Darboe
> >>> and his
> >>> crowd later held a well attended meeting at the square adjacent to
> >>> the Latri
> >>> Kunda Mosque.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Last to arrive at the IEC headquarters to be nominated was Mr. Henry
> >>> Gomez
> >>> of the GPDP (Gambia Peoples Democratic Party), a newly formed party
> >>> headed
> >>> by a Gambian resident in Germany. Citing Section 62, C, of the
> >>> constitution,
> >>> the IEC refused to accept Mr. Gomez's nomination based on a residency
> >>> argument. The IEC holds it that Mr. Gomez had not been continuously
> >>> resident
> >>> in The Gambia long enough. Mr. Gomez was obviously upset by the
> >>> turning down
> >>> of his nomination and claimed it was because only he could defeat
> >>> Jammeh.
> >>> Now that the
> >>>
> >>> nominations have been dawn and the way open for a three=way
> >>> presidential
> >>> contest., many people are praying for a peaceful election.
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