Vinny,
I think that songs are a lot more about why and how we mean them as
singers/instrumentalists than what they were written for. there are some
lyrics that are obviously about sinful acts, and I have no problem staying
away from those. hOwever, you've just ruined a good song for a lot of good
people.
Thanks a lot!
JulieMelton
visit me at
www.heart-and-music.com
Keep smiling!
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>Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2005 03:55:01 -0700
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>now thats something I never heard before. I love that song.
>
>cindy
>
>Vinny Samarco <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>phil,
>What a good testimony.
>On another aspect of that, I think it's terrible ther P P and M fooled most
>people with that song. I didn't find out till later what that was about.
>How about bridge over troubled waters? I've heard that one sung in
>churches, and the last verse is about ha needle and a heroin trip.
>A beautiful melody and decptive words.
>Vinny
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Phil Scovell"
>To:
>Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2005 5:11 PM
>Subject: Puff The Magic Dragon
>
>
> > The following testimony speaks for itself.
> >
> > Puff The Magic Dragon
> >
> >
> > By Phil Scovell
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > George called and said he was having a horrible anxiety
> > attack. He had experienced healing in many places but recent, and
> > current, circumstances were trying to crush the life out of him.
> >
> > As we talked about how he felt, he admitted that in the
> > middle of his anxiety episode, a memory came to his attention
> > during the time he was in the 6th grade. He related that he could
> > not get to the truth of what that memory was about but he saw that
> > he was scared and nervous in the classroom. He could clearly
> > recall the students in their chairs and the teacher in the room
> > but he felt too fearful to explore the true nature of the anxiety
> > within the memory itself. I had a scheduled appointment coming up
> > but told him I would call him back later and pray with him about
> > the fear and the importance of the memory. In the mean time, I
> > suggested he pray through the memory himself to see if more
> > information surfaced.
> >
> > Later I received an email of the victory he experienced and
> > then we talked on the telephone concerning the healing the Lord
> > brought to him. Here is his testimony.
> >
> > George reported, after getting off the phone, that he sat in
> > a chair and refocused on the memory. clearly the images of the
> > classroom, the other seated students, and the teacher were all
> > there. He even specifically recalled the teacher's name. Most
> > importantly, and most disturbingly, the fear and anxiety and
> > fright, which he could vividly feel, were still there as well.
> > He could not understand why. So, he asked the Lord. the reply he
> > received was that he had nearly always been frightened and
> > scared.
> >
> > George then requested the Lord show him the source, or cause,
> > for this fear. Immediately, as he saw and remembered the images
> > of the childhood memory, a dragon walked into the room. It flung
> > it's head from side to side and if sniffing the air to find a
> > particular victim. At that moment, a figure of Jesus appeared in
> > one corner of the room. George said, "Lord Jesus? What is that?
> > dragon doing here?"
> >
> > The Lord said, "That's Puff the magic dragon."
> >
> > George knew, of course, that was the name of a song which
> > Peter, Paul and Mary sang many years ago. Those who recall, the
> > song, easily recognize the implication of dope smoking, that
> > symbolically produces dragons, that is, fairy tales or stories of
> > fantasy.
> >
> > Author's Note.
> >
> > This idea would be similar to Alice In Wonderland. After
> > ingesting certain types of mushrooms, psychedelic effects occurred
> > in the story. Here all this time you thought it was just a cute
> > little children's fairy tale. This is the same reasoning used by
> > many today, even born again Christians, to justify the Harry
> > Potter stories. It is time to draw the line.
> >
> > End Of Author's note.
> >
> > George confessed later to me that he used to often sing this
> > cute little song, Puff The Magic Dragon, to himself as he worked
> > because it seemed to bring comfort to him. It brought something
> > to him spiritually but not comfort.
> >
> > George, after hearing what the Lord said and briefly
> > considering what he had heard, asked, "So what does Puff the magic
> > dragon have to do with this memory?"
> >
> > The Lord said, "You have been substituting fantasies to
> > avoid, and to cope with, stress and fearful circumstances in your
> > life."
> >
> > "What does the dragon want from me?" George then asked.
> >
> > "He wants to kill you," Jesus said matter of factly.
> >
> > It was clear to George by this time what the dragon was.
> > "Does this demon have a right to be in my life?" George wanted to
> > know.
> >
> > "No," came the single word answer from the Lord.
> >
> > "What do you want me to do with him, then?" George asked.
> >
> > "Send him away," came the succinct answer.
> >
> > "In the name of the True Lord Jesus Christ," George prayed,
> > "I bind you and all those under your authority. I command you to
> > leave and to go to the place where the true Lord Jesus Christ
> > wants you to go. Don't ever come back."
> >
> > Then a very curious thing happened, George said. The dragon
> > began leaving but as he stood there, a duplicate image of the
> > dragon separated itself from the first image and began exiting the
> > room. This was quickly followed by a second and a third and a
> > fourth. The main image remain where it was.
> >
> > George said, "Lord, what is going on here?"
> >
> > "these are the fantasies created in your mind over the years
> > to distract you from hearing the truth," he heard the Holy Spirit
> > speaking into his thoughts.
> >
> > "How many of these are there?" George asked curiously.
> >
> > Jesus said, "25."
> >
> > George watched as the images of the original dragon followed
> > each other as they exited the room until the final image, the
> > original dragon, walked out of the room as well.
> >
> > George looked at the corner where Jesus had been standing and
> > began laughing. Jesus was giving the "thumbs up" signal and then,
> > as George continued to watch, the Lord began to dance around the
> > room with joy causing George to laugh even more. The fear and
> > anxiety he felt as a 6th grader in the classroom vanished and now
> > joy and peace filled the room and the boy.
> >
> > this is the type of thing that drives a lot of Christians
> > crazy. First, it is labeled as psycho heresy, self hypnosis,
> > personal guided imagery, theatrical meditation, lucid dreaming, or
> > sometimes it is simply label demonic. It is none of these things,
> > of course, because it is nothing more than intimate prayer with
> > the True Lord Jesus Christ. If you recall, Jesus was accused of
> > casting out demons by the power of Satan. (See Matthew 9:32-34).
> > Of course, this argument makes no sense whatsoever but many
> > Christians have resigned themselves to believing the Enemy has
> > such imaginary power and the true Lord Jesus does not. I grew up
> > believing that anybody whoever saw Jesus was a heretic,
> > theologically twisted, and very likely mentally ill, or worse,
> > demon possessed.
> >
> > Some choose to label this form of prayer "inner healing," and
> > thus attribute its origin to New Age philosophy, heretical
> > theology, or Luciferian mysticism. You are free to believe
> > whatever you wish. While you are believing whatever it is you
> > believe, keep in mind the true nature of the Enemy, that is, Jesus
> > said Satan has come to steel, kill and to destroy. (See John
> > 10:10).
> >
> > My question to you is this. Are you afraid? Do you have
> > anxiety and panic attacks and you don't know why? What is the
> > source of your depression? Would you like to be free? Call me
> > and learn to pray as George has.
> >
> > Safe Place Fellowship
> > Phil Scovell
> > Denver, Colorado
> > Mountain time Zone
> > Phone: 303-507-5175
> > www.SafePlaceFellowship.com
> >
>
>
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><DIV>now thats something I never heard before. I love that song.</DIV>
><DIV> </DIV>
><DIV>cindy<BR><BR><B><I>Vinny Samarco <[log in to unmask]></I></B>
>wrote:</DIV>
><BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px;
>BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">phil,<BR>What a good testimony.<BR>On
>another aspect of that, I think it's terrible ther P P and M fooled
>most<BR>people with that song. I didn't find out till later what that was
>about.<BR>How about bridge over troubled waters? I've heard that one sung
>in<BR>churches, and the last verse is about ha needle and a heroin
>trip.<BR>A beautiful melody and decptive words.<BR>Vinny<BR>----- Original
>Message -----<BR>From: "Phil Scovell" <[log in to unmask]><BR>To:
><[log in to unmask]><BR>Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2005
>5:11 PM<BR>Subject: Puff The Magic Dragon<BR><BR><BR>> The following
>testimony speaks for itself.<BR>><BR>> Puff The Magic
>Dragon<BR>><BR>><BR>> By Phil
>Scovell<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>> George called and said he
>was having a horrible anxiety<BR>> attack. He had experienced healing in
>many places but recent, and<BR>>
> current, circumstances were trying to crush the life out of
>him.<BR>><BR>> As we talked about how he felt, he admitted that in
>the<BR>> middle of his anxiety episode, a memory came to his
>attention<BR>> during the time he was in the 6th grade. He related that
>he could<BR>> not get to the truth of what that memory was about but he
>saw that<BR>> he was scared and nervous in the classroom. He could
>clearly<BR>> recall the students in their chairs and the teacher in the
>room<BR>> but he felt too fearful to explore the true nature of the
>anxiety<BR>> within the memory itself. I had a scheduled appointment
>coming up<BR>> but told him I would call him back later and pray with
>him about<BR>> the fear and the importance of the memory. In the mean
>time, I<BR>> suggested he pray through the memory himself to see if
>more<BR>> information surfaced.<BR>><BR>> Later I received an
>email of the victory he experienced and<BR>> then we talked on the
> telephone concerning the healing the Lord<BR>> brought to him. Here is
>his testimony.<BR>><BR>> George reported, after getting off the
>phone, that he sat in<BR>> a chair and refocused on the memory. clearly
>the images of the<BR>> classroom, the other seated students, and the
>teacher were all<BR>> there. He even specifically recalled the teacher's
>name. Most<BR>> importantly, and most disturbingly, the fear and anxiety
>and<BR>> fright, which he could vividly feel, were still there as
>well.<BR>> He could not understand why. So, he asked the Lord. the reply
>he<BR>> received was that he had nearly always been frightened
>and<BR>> scared.<BR>><BR>> George then requested the Lord show him
>the source, or cause,<BR>> for this fear. Immediately, as he saw and
>remembered the images<BR>> of the childhood memory, a dragon walked into
>the room. It flung<BR>> it's head from side to side and if sniffing the
>air to find a<BR>> particular victim. At
> that moment, a figure of Jesus appeared in<BR>> one corner of the
>room. George said, "Lord Jesus? What is that?<BR>> dragon doing
>here?"<BR>><BR>> The Lord said, "That's Puff the magic
>dragon."<BR>><BR>> George knew, of course, that was the name of a
>song which<BR>> Peter, Paul and Mary sang many years ago. Those who
>recall, the<BR>> song, easily recognize the implication of dope smoking,
>that<BR>> symbolically produces dragons, that is, fairy tales or stories
>of<BR>> fantasy.<BR>><BR>> Author's Note.<BR>><BR>> This
>idea would be similar to Alice In Wonderland. After<BR>> ingesting
>certain types of mushrooms, psychedelic effects occurred<BR>> in the
>story. Here all this time you thought it was just a cute<BR>> little
>children's fairy tale. This is the same reasoning used by<BR>> many
>today, even born again Christians, to justify the Harry<BR>> Potter
>stories. It is time to draw the line.<BR>><BR>> End Of Author's
> note.<BR>><BR>> George confessed later to me that he used to often
>sing this<BR>> cute little song, Puff The Magic Dragon, to himself as he
>worked<BR>> because it seemed to bring comfort to him. It brought
>something<BR>> to him spiritually but not comfort.<BR>><BR>>
>George, after hearing what the Lord said and briefly<BR>> considering
>what he had heard, asked, "So what does Puff the magic<BR>> dragon have
>to do with this memory?"<BR>><BR>> The Lord said, "You have been
>substituting fantasies to<BR>> avoid, and to cope with, stress and
>fearful circumstances in your<BR>> life."<BR>><BR>> "What does the
>dragon want from me?" George then asked.<BR>><BR>> "He wants to kill
>you," Jesus said matter of factly.<BR>><BR>> It was clear to George
>by this time what the dragon was.<BR>> "Does this demon have a right to
>be in my life?" George wanted to<BR>> know.<BR>><BR>> "No," came
>the single word answer from the
> Lord.<BR>><BR>> "What do you want me to do with him, then?" George
>asked.<BR>><BR>> "Send him away," came the succinct
>answer.<BR>><BR>> "In the name of the True Lord Jesus Christ," George
>prayed,<BR>> "I bind you and all those under your authority. I command
>you to<BR>> leave and to go to the place where the true Lord Jesus
>Christ<BR>> wants you to go. Don't ever come back."<BR>><BR>> Then
>a very curious thing happened, George said. The dragon<BR>> began
>leaving but as he stood there, a duplicate image of the<BR>> dragon
>separated itself from the first image and began exiting the<BR>> room.
>This was quickly followed by a second and a third and a<BR>> fourth. The
>main image remain where it was.<BR>><BR>> George said, "Lord, what is
>going on here?"<BR>><BR>> "these are the fantasies created in your
>mind over the years<BR>> to distract you from hearing the truth," he
>heard the Holy Spirit<BR>> speaking into his
> thoughts.<BR>><BR>> "How many of these are there?" George asked
>curiously.<BR>><BR>> Jesus said, "25."<BR>><BR>> George watched
>as the images of the original dragon followed<BR>> each other as they
>exited the room until the final image, the<BR>> original dragon, walked
>out of the room as well.<BR>><BR>> George looked at the corner where
>Jesus had been standing and<BR>> began laughing. Jesus was giving the
>"thumbs up" signal and then,<BR>> as George continued to watch, the Lord
>began to dance around the<BR>> room with joy causing George to laugh
>even more. The fear and<BR>> anxiety he felt as a 6th grader in the
>classroom vanished and now<BR>> joy and peace filled the room and the
>boy.<BR>><BR>> this is the type of thing that drives a lot of
>Christians<BR>> crazy. First, it is labeled as psycho heresy, self
>hypnosis,<BR>> personal guided imagery, theatrical meditation, lucid
>dreaming, or<BR>> sometimes it is simply label
> demonic. It is none of these things,<BR>> of course, because it is
>nothing more than intimate prayer with<BR>> the True Lord Jesus Christ.
>If you recall, Jesus was accused of<BR>> casting out demons by the power
>of Satan. (See Matthew 9:32-34).<BR>> Of course, this argument makes no
>sense whatsoever but many<BR>> Christians have resigned themselves to
>believing the Enemy has<BR>> such imaginary power and the true Lord
>Jesus does not. I grew up<BR>> believing that anybody whoever saw Jesus
>was a heretic,<BR>> theologically twisted, and very likely mentally ill,
>or worse,<BR>> demon possessed.<BR>><BR>> Some choose to label
>this form of prayer "inner healing," and<BR>> thus attribute its origin
>to New Age philosophy, heretical<BR>> theology, or Luciferian mysticism.
>You are free to believe<BR>> whatever you wish. While you are believing
>whatever it is you<BR>> believe, keep in mind the true nature of the
>Enemy, that is, Jesus<BR>> said
> Satan has come to steel, kill and to destroy. (See John<BR>>
>10:10).<BR>><BR>> My question to you is this. Are you afraid? Do you
>have<BR>> anxiety and panic attacks and you don't know why? What is
>the<BR>> source of your depression? Would you like to be free? Call
>me<BR>> and learn to pray as George has.<BR>><BR>> Safe Place
>Fellowship<BR>> Phil Scovell<BR>> Denver, Colorado<BR>> Mountain
>time Zone<BR>> Phone: 303-507-5175<BR>>
>www.SafePlaceFellowship.com<BR>><BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR><DIV>
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