That is all you can do and perhaps try to point her towards help when it
is wise to do so and feel it is right. It is a shame because I'm sure she
is just as hurt if not worse because she knows full well what it is doing,
yet likely too fearful to stop. So she is torn I'm sure.  Fear comes out
in anger so it is disguised, but it doesn't seem anything but like anger
to you and your dad I'm sure because you are in the midst of the flames.
Praying mom gets brave to  trust God to take on her fear for her.

Brad


on 08:09 PM 8/31/2005, Amy Gordon said:
Brad,
     I try to talk to her sometimes but ever time I just get shut down by
something smart she will say.  I really want to try to have a great
relationship with her but I can't figure out how to make it work.  It
hurts
me badly and his hurting my Dad to because I think he feels the same way.
We just don't know what to do besides keep praying.

Amy

----- Original Message -----
From: "Brad D" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 10:21 PM
Subject: Re: Very Bad Day


 > Amy,
 >
 > My guess is, when she finds out, or rather comes to grips with her
issues,
 > she will be a changed person, and those around her that will come to
know
 > her issues, likely those closest to her, will feel perhaps sorrow for
her
 > past as well as their own towards her,  perhaps even ashamed and
 > remorseful. Seems to me she has been hurt very bad in her life somehow
and
 > is so struggling to be close and want that so very much, yet so very
 > afraid to be close for fear of being hurt again. The fear is not likely
 > rational, but very real nonetheless and appears to be a great tug of
war
 > in her. I pray she does not leave it dormant because it is all the
longer
 > she lives life with useless and wasteful baggage preventing her and
others
 > from entering great relationships which time is unforgiving.
 >
 > Brad
 >
 >
 > on 08:46 AM 8/30/2005, Amy Gordon said:
 > Brad,
 >      That's right.  We just can't figure out what is wrong with her.  I
 > just
 > pray every day that God will reveal the real issue with her and will
help
 > me
 > and my Dad deal with this.  The thing is that she isn't just like this
 > with
 > us.  It is with alot of people.
 >
 > Amy
 > ----- Original Message -----
 > From: "Brad D" <[log in to unmask]>
 > To: <[log in to unmask]>
 > Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 12:38 AM
 > Subject: Re: Very Bad Day
 >
 >
 >  > Mom needs some prayer too that her issues be taken care of. I get
the
 >  > distinct sense you and dad are victims as well of what mom  is
dealing
 >  > with, or rather avoiding. God be yawls guide.
 >  >
 >  > Brad
 >  >
 >  >
 >  > on 02:35 PM 8/29/2005, Amy Gordon said:
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 >  > Hello everyone,
 >  >      Today started out as a good day but now it isn't so good.  My
Mom
 > =
 >  > asked me what happened to me and Tommy, which used to be my
 > boyfriend.  =
 >  > I told her again that we had decided to just be friends.  Then I
said =
 >  > that it was because of some stuff going on.  I then paused and
decided
 > I =
 >  > would tell her more but she said how come you can tell everyone else
 > but =
 >  > can't tell me?  I have told her before why I can't tell her
things.  So
 > =
 >  > then she said well I guess you can get someone else to help you with
=
 >  > your Sunday school lesson.  She records it for me so I can teach
it.  I
 > =
 >  > really would like to tell her things but I can't because I never
know =
 >  > how she will react.  I'm trying to stay upstairs away from her.  I
just
 > =
 >  > am so hurt because this happens so often.  She doesn't ever tell me
=
 >  > anything either.  Dad has the same problem with her.  Please pray
for =
 >  > me.
 >  >
 >  > Thanks,
 >  > Amy
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before
 >  > why I=20 can't tell her things.  So then she said well I guess you
can
 > get
 >  > = someone=20 else to help you with your Sunday school lesson.  She
 > records
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 >  > but I can't = because=20 I never know how she will react.  I'm
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 > happens
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