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ken barber <[log in to unmask]>
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St. John's University Cerebral Palsy List
Date:
Sat, 7 Jan 2006 20:18:10 -0800
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it has been a long time since i was in the academic
environment and did any research. after i started just
battling the world to have a career (pre ada, open
discrimination undisguised) , i guess i just let
research go to the back of my memory.

--- Kathleen Salkin <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> Now, I'm really wondering...do you mean a third of
> your sampling will
> have average IQs, a third will have below-average
> IQs and so forth?
> Or do you mean this is a rule of thumb for the CP
> population as a
> whole?   What exactly is your hypothesis?
>
> When I was in grad school, the sampling had to be
> truly random, with
> a control group to test it against.  Perhaps things
> have changed a
> great deal in the social sciences since I was a MS
> candidate?
>
> Kat
>
>
> On 7 Jan 2006, at 23:00, greta von der luft wrote:
>
> > OOPS I misspoke/typed. I meant kiddos with CP and
> average
> > intelligence or kiddos with CP and mild cognitive
> impairment. I was
> > trying to say that there was a range of
> intelligence....
> >
> > I know there is a rule of 1/3s. A third of the
> children with CP
> > will have average intelligence, a 1/3 with mild
> cognitive
> > impairment, and a 1/3 with severe cognitive
> impairment.
> > Sorry,
> > Greta
> >   ----- Original Message -----
> >   From: Brent Edwards<mailto:[log in to unmask]>
> >   To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:C-
> > [log in to unmask]>
> >   Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2006 9:03 PM
> >   Subject: Re: now greta's stats
> >
> >
> >   Perhaps I missed something here. At least I hope
> I did. But did
> > no one
> >   else catch this?
> >
> >> I ended up with a good cross section of kiddos
> with CP (hemiplegic,
> >> diplegic, quadriplegic; average to mild cognitive
> impairment...
> >
> >   ummm... What about some kids with no cognitive
> impairment at
> > all?? Like
> >   the kids that the people who post to this list
> grew up to be? Please
> >   Greta forgive me if there is something about the
> way your
> > research was
> >   structured that precluded the use of data from
> cognitive normal
> >   subjects. But if that is not the case, methinks
> I catch a whiff
> > of the
> >   old "all cp kids have cognitive impairment"
> meme. Those of us who
> > are
> >   not so impaired (who I'm guessing is just about
> everyone on this
> > list
> >   who has cp) aren't actually very fond of that
> piece of "conventional
> >   wisdom".
> >
> >   Brent Edwards
> >   Resident List Crank
>




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