NO ONE UNDERSTANDS HOW MUCH DEALING WITH CONTINUOUS PAIN WILL TAKE out of a
person unless they have it to deal with themselves.

-----Original Message-----
From: Kathleen Salkin [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 12:51 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: My Mom, my physiatrist in Ottawa


No, no hard feelings here, either.  I didn't have pain myself until I was in
my mid-forties, and I didn\'t fully realise just how energy-draining it was
to cope with is on a daily basis until then.

Kat

\"St. John\'s University Cerebral Palsy List\"
<[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Kat,

I don\'t want to cause any hard feelings here, but I\'m like your Mom before
she had an terminal illness because I haven\'t ever experienced great pain,
so I understand why she didn\'t fully understand before.

Anthony

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  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Kathleen Salkin
  To: [log in to unmask]
  Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 9:46 AM
  Subject: Re: My Mom, my physiatrist in Ottawa


  Unfortunately, it took a terminal illness for my mother to understand
living with pain every day.  Just before she died, she said, \"I want you to
know, I\'m sorry for not believing how hard it is to live with pain from day
to day.\"  By that time she was on morphine.

  Kat


  \"St. John\'s University Cerebral Palsy List\"
 wrote:
  > Betty, it\'s been my experience that almost nobody who has not
experienced
  chronic pain can appreciate it.  You would not beleive some of the crap I
  hear from well-meaning family and friends.  I\'ve been called everything
from
  spiritually bankrupt to a drug-addict. None of the naysayers has ever
dealt
  with pain lasting more than a week.  They can sometimes understand the
idea
  of palliative care in terminally-ill cancer patients, but that\'s about
the
  extent of their understanding. \"F\" \'em all!

  -Kyle (who\'s just as tired of it as Jenn)

  -----Original Message-----
  From: Betty B [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
  Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2002 1:58 AM
  To: [log in to unmask]
  Subject: Re: My Mom, my physiatrist in Ottawa


  In a message dated 2/22/2002 11:08:24 PM Eastern Standard Time,
  [log in to unmask] writes:


  > ... but I was so hurt w/ my
  > Mom\'s comments.
  >
  > Any comments, suggestions, etc.
  > Jenn
  >
  Kyle had some thoughtful and considered comments to make. Did you check
out
  the website he suggested?  www.asappain.com?

  Moms have a special way of pushing buttons.  This seems to be a universal
  condition.  I\'m sorry about your pain, and the fact that your Mom isn\'t
  understanding about it.

  Betty