there has been lots of evil that has been done in the name of religion.    i
hate the term holy war. there is no such thing as a holy war.

i too thought it good when the pope gave an appology and i am not even
catholic, but have some great catholic friends as i do jewish friends etc.
the apology was overdue.

-----Original Message-----
From: Trisha Cummings [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Friday, March 17, 2000 8:21 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Blessed Eid-Al-Adha - from Trisha and Amber


Hi Ken,

        The Golden Rule applies to almost all belief systems. The problem
never lies with philosophies but the fears that haunt the corners of peoples
Hearts. The fear that we may lose what we have, we may not good enough, the
fear of looking foolish or silly, the fear we may be wrong - thats the
kicker - when you cannot allow another person their opinion without one
being and one being - rather than two being fine but different - that's what
leads to Holocausts and Burning Times. I was happy to see the Holy Father
ask for forgiveness for the actions of the Christian people and their
ability to ahhhhhhhh......... love us. I am a firm believer in One
Earth -One People  - not that I believe I will see in my lifetime - it would
require people to truly espouse  Love and Tolerance - something they wish
for selves but are hestitant to offer to others.  In respect to last
question - I placed facts on both the Jewish Religion and The Islamic one
out on the list. Plus the Golden Rules!!  These come from a truly Great Site
Ontario Consultants on Religious Tolerance.
http://www.religioustolerance.org/

        And in the words of the now late Pagan Patriarch Stuart Farrar -
Love is the Law - The Whole of the Law.

                                       Blessed Be
                                           Trisha




> just a little tidbit. the holy book of Islam (the Koran) forbids
hostilities
> toward the jews as does the teachings of Jesus who loved them very much.
an
> i think the old testaments teaches enough about love of others. you'd
think
> the   fighting would not go on regardless of differences.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Elizabeth H. Thiers [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2000 9:23 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Blessed Eid-Al-Adha - from Trisha and Amber
>
>
> As more of a history lesson:
> In the beginning, Islam recognized Christians and Jews and brethern in
faith
> that needed special handling.  Jesus to Islamics was a healer, prophet,
> wiseman, beloved of Allah.  My Saudi aquaintences have an interesting
> interpretation of Jesus's death on the cross.  Jews, Christians, and
Muslims
> recognize many of the same patriarches such as Abraham, David, Moses, etc.
> It is traditionally thought that the Arabic peoples came from Abrahams
> concubine, Hagar (I think I have that right) and the Jewish people came
from
> Sarah, Abrahams legitamate wife.  It's amazing to me how the three faithes
> are so alike yet so different.  It's almost like watching a bunch of
feuding
> siblings.
>
> Beth, the OT
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: St. John's University Cerebral Palsy List
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Trisha Cummings
> Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2000 5:28 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Blessed Eid-Al-Adha - from Trisha and Amber
>
>
> Well Mag I will take a stab at this one. A quickie - its two job day!! I
> need to leave in 9 minutes!!
>
>          The Jewish religion now its  5759th year - is based on ancient
> tales beginning around campfires - compilied into a manuscipt called the
> Bible - The Old Testiment( Only). It is the belief system of the Hebrew
> poeple. They are still waiting for the Promised Messiah to come. It is now
> Patriarchial/Male Deity based belief system, once in the very beginning it
> was a Matriarchal component. Additional manuscripts are used and taught -
> The Torah. Male children are to circumcised, they have Holy days based on
> their significant events. Which since I can't spell them correctly - I
will
> out of respect list at  later time.
>
> That a real brief quickie nutshell.  I am sure that Steve - can be more
> concise and educational.
>
>         Islam is its 1420th year based the teachings of the Prophet
> Mohammed. The manuscript it uses is called the Koran. It is also a
> Patriarchial/Male Deity based belief system. The Islamic religion
recognizes
> Master Jesus as a wiseman. They do not as the Christian view him as a
> Messiah.
>
>              Piffle -  I have to go - more tomorrow!!
>
>                            Hugs to You Mag
>                                    Trisha
>
>
>
>
> >what is the difference between judaism and islam?
> >
> >mag