Our new Ellen manager is buried in Dinars than he knows what to do with.
But do you see him trying to bail Demba out of jail??? No. Kukeh got us in
all this trouble. And Demba would swear that Laye is his close friend. Well
how do we know that???? And if we are not supposed to know, then what does
your friendship matter when one of you is incarcerated??? How would you
celebrate your friendships? If you don't let go of some of the DInars, how
would you have room for more to come in???? Kambians!!!! Haruna. DARBO.
In a message dated 1/16/2010 11:56:43 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
[log in to unmask] writes:
Exciting Suntou. I am pleased even as you view Demba to be malignantly
biased, you still will donate $20.00 to secure his freedom so he can be biased
again. This indicates to me that your passionate claim of Demba's
debilitating bias does not preclude your desire for a free Demba. In effect, you are
demonstrating that even if you vehemently disagree with your fellow
citizen, his/her freedom is indispensably tied to your own freedom and that
freedom by itself or the lack thereof does not significantly affect scope of
disdain, crime, or perceived malignancy. What it also demonstrates to us is
that your view of Demba can be open to challenge by other, all while Demba
remains free from arrest, incarceration, or other infringement from other. In
essence, Demba is free to be Demba until he transgresses on the rights and
freedom of his fellow citizens. It is evident therefore that when we
receive your $20.00 equivalent donation to afford Demba freedom to continue to
be Demba, he still is at the mercy of another jailer who may wish to donate
for his re-incarceration. De-minimis, Demba will live in a halo of on-again
off-again shows of disdain and secours and Demba will be able to inventory
the net value of his life on his fellow citizen.
Demba eagerly awaits your donation to purchase his freedom if temporal.
You are a great man Suntou and I declare Demba does not have a better friend
among his fellow citizens than yourself, the tonguicoff notwithstanding. I
encourage Karim and the Olfactor to weigh in on Demba's dilemma in as
demonstrable a manner as only they can. Demba always informs me how many friends
he has in our community and I have always been wanting to put that
postulation to the test. I think we can get a closure not on whether Demba is or
should be Neutral or biased, but how to manage his bias or neutrality more
valuably for mankind. I am confident you are not purchasing Demba's freedom
so Freedomnews can secure their interview. The man Nderry must be challenged
to recognize value in Demba enough to want to secure his freedom. I will
be liaising with warden Sankareh of Ellenecho jail to sign Demba's free pass
so he can afford Freedomnews an interview. Its all out of my hands when I
receive your donation of $20.00 Suntou barring another fellow citizen
donating for Demba's continued incarceration and more impressive fund-raising
for Chief Manneh.
I commend your spirit and appreciate Nderry's apparent concern for Demba's
freedom.
Haruna.
In a message dated 1/16/2010 7:00:01 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
[log in to unmask] writes:
Haruna, your initiative is a good strategy to raise funds for our brother
Ebirma Manneh. My observations of Demba stems from a two year analysis of
his politics. He categorised me just has any fanatic PDOIS fellow would do.
Only they has the ability to comprehend rationally so far as the Gambia is
concern. Some of them would even have you believe that, the accumulation of
socialist ideas in the Bereau is much better than attending any University.
Demba for his pride refuse to capture my simple points. He is not like any
ordinary communicator here. That doesn't mean he cannot air his heart's
content. Many other editors are right here on all the forums even if they
make it out they are not with us. But they know how sensitive the job of an
editor is. I know deep down Demba knows what i said were correct, but to safe
his face he kept jabbing at me.
I will donate $20 Dollars to set him free Masoud. Deal!
Suntou
On Sat, Jan 16, 2010 at 3:17 AM, Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]
(mailto:[log in to unmask]) > wrote:
Don't tell me you missed it again. Haruna.
-----Original Message-----
From: Haruna Darboe <[log in to unmask] (mailto:[log in to unmask]) >
To: [log in to unmask] (mailto:[log in to unmask])
Sent: Thu, Jan 14, 2010 1:12 am
Subject: Re: Analysis of the objectives, values, hurdles and organisation
of Agenda 2011
What happened? I didn't get any closure as to whether Demba is or should
be neutral. I think both Suntou and Demba made some great points. Suntou
expressed his perception of Demba and his repulsion at Demba's apparent bias
given Demba's dual roles as editor of the indomitable Gainako and Secretary
General of the GPU-USA. Demba shared that to be neutral is not human and
that his apparent bias ought not take away from his value as a social
entrepreneur. These are seminal considerations for mankind. And we are none the
wiser for them. Let us just say Demba is on trial by a prospective subscriber
to Gainako. And I happen to know Demba is working on a fund-raising
campaign for Chief Ebrima Manneh. So I'll put Demba in Ellen's and Mafanta's
penitentiary (EMCM jail for you Mams). To minimize the affect of Demba's bias,
you could donate $5.00 or equivalent to keep him locked up. If Demba has
any friends here who want to see him released, they can counter with an
equal donation. We will keep this going for as long as we have folk pro or con
Demba's freedom. All proceeds go to the Chief Manneh Fund.
So I begin by pledging $20.00 to arraign Demba and put him in lockdown.
This means Demba cannot speak here on Ellen until an amount equal to $20.00
is donated to grant him license to speak in his defense. You notice Chief
Manneh remains abducted and is unable to speak or defend himself. Imagine
Demba in the same condition to imagine what Chief Manneh must be dealing with.
Until we establish an address to send the donations to, you can send all
donations to:
The Global Democracy Project
Chief Manneh Fund
P.O. Box 775
Lithia Springs, GA. 30122
Please note Demba Jail or Demba Free.
I will share a running tally with you from time to time. Suffice it to say
Demba is now officially in jail. At least he'll figure out if he has any
friends who agony over his incarceration.
Suntou, don't change the rules. If you want to prolong his incarceration,
you can donate to Demba Jail even if there is excess funds for his
incarceration. If you really think he's biased, you wouldn't wanna hear his mouth
again. Only a moratorium can pardon him. And that Moratorium will come from
Galleh and JDAM in a joint communique'. Should they deadlock on which way
to go, Yero will break the tie. Ok I love you all. Keep the people of Haiti
in your prayers and help them if you can.
Haruna.
-----Original Message-----
From: Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask] (mailto:[log in to unmask]) >
To: [log in to unmask] (mailto:[log in to unmask])
Sent: Tue, Jan 12, 2010 11:43 am
Subject: Re: Analysis of the objectives, values, hurdles and organisation
of Agenda 2011
Thanx Demba. I like you mixing hal pulaar in your conversations. It makes
the conversation more intimate and helps to soothe Suntou. Also it helps me
polish my language skills in hal pulaar. My friend Dem is not terribly
conversant so he is shirking on his responsibilities to teach me Pulaar. I
want him to know his great father assigned him the task of teaching me the
language because all my siblings can speak it comfortably except myself. He
can claim he wasn't aware of that onerous task but I know what I heard in
1979. So I'm calling him to let him know that you Demba have officially taken
his place for his own delinquency. Don't just call me once a year to wish
me happy new year, Happy Tobaski, happy this and happy that in Pulaar. I'm
not pleased with you Dem. Demba please continue to infuse life in our
conversations. Maybe, just maybe, you'll save someone's life other than Suntou.
And I have a word or two about this Neutrality business Suntou and Demba.
I'll share that later or tomorrow. So keep the Tonguicoff going for a while
longer. If you stop I'll remind you two. You know I will. Haruna.
-----Original Message-----
From: Demba Baldeh <[log in to unmask] (mailto:[log in to unmask]) >
To: [log in to unmask] (mailto:[log in to unmask])
Sent: Mon, Jan 11, 2010 5:43 pm
Subject: Re: Analysis of the objectives, values, hurdles and organisation
of Agenda 2011
Continue on your path and you will be sorry... the mind is a terible thing
to waste... you are another rebel without a course... I'm done with you
and should have long time ago because no amount of education will make you
grow... Wonna koo maayitan yurmeneh ..Allah Yafoo. (sympathy is not only for
the dead).
Demba
On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 2:56 AM, suntou touray <[log in to unmask]
(mailto:[log in to unmask]) > wrote:
Demba, I made my point. I heard lots of gossip on the fanatic or extremist
bits. it amuse me. Have your opinion, but remember the implications for
what you do.
Your over zealous PDOIS mentality makes you a casualty of being neutral
towards others, just like Foroyaa cannot afford being neutral when political
issues are the subject matter. My warning Demba which may be harsh are
facts which you need to take on board unless your editorship is unimportant to
you. In which case resign and be an ordinary bystander. That way, your
relevance in so far as media matter are concern will be nothing. take it or
continue soldiering for PDOIS. I have little interest in your opinions which
are general, when they become political, especially opposition matters, that
is a worry. Watch that bit, sarcasm is nothing i lose sleep over.
Suntou
On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 7:49 PM, Demba Baldeh <[log in to unmask]
(mailto:[log in to unmask]) > wrote:
Extremist is the correct term... I was trying to be modest but it doesn't
work with you. Thanks for using the right terms. Neutral in the public???..
don't have an opinion, don't be a regular human being, or a citizen. Just
focus on your meager responsibility of trying to contribute to society...
these are the dummest and most ignorant interpretation of roles and
responsibilities.
So being an editor takes away your duty as a citizen? Your natural human
bias and your ability to function in any other setting... I am stunned for
real. The more I read from you the more it affirms the notion that education
is more than book knowledge... that sometimes there is nothing society can
do to change how others think and reason... but it is still worth trying I
think.
it is absolutely amazing how narrow minded you are.. From one controversy
to another, one offense to another.... I guess it may be that you are in
search of your soul... this is why I still love to engage you and am sure
others are too... because we love you as a brother and wish well for you...
hopefully you will grow along with us... because failure to engage you could
be more disasterous and it might just sway you in the unfortunate world of
extremism.. which is dangerous... stay in touch... painful as it may
be....but we can't throw away our own.
Demba
On Sat, Jan 9, 2010 at 10:53 AM, suntou touray <[log in to unmask]
(mailto:[log in to unmask]) > wrote:
Fundamentalist. You better say extremist. You support the issues that you
have presented Demba. Remember I have debated you over PDOIS on many
occasions. You are not a bystander in PDOIS affairs. Be brave and acknowledge
that.
You should be embarrase for yourself. I am not sentimental over public
matters. Grow up. What I refer is that, whether you support a particular
politician or not is not relevant, what you as an editor con GPU Secretary
General should do is be neutral in the public. You are caught up between your
love for Halifa and your role as Gainako man. Know where to let loose your
guns. For you be taken seriously both as a gainako editor and GPU leader, you
must approach matter delicately especially in public forums. You seems to
be seriously confuse over that.
I will continue to make such matters clear to you Dember, until such a
time yo realise, Editors do support individual political parties, but they
control their feelings so far as public discourse is concern. When you are
able to divorce the two, the conflict of interest which you are so oblivious
about will be taken care of.
Suntou
On Sat, Jan 9, 2010 at 7:40 AM, Demba Baldeh <[log in to unmask]
(mailto:[log in to unmask]) > wrote:
S.u.n.t.o.u.....
What a fundamentalist view of issues Mr.... I guess you have never seen
the New York times, Washington post or the The Times endorse a candidate or
political party yeh? How lame?. Did Kejau endorse any party or candidate?
Did Gainako endorse anybody? You offering advice ... wow on what moral
ground?
Dude, there is a difference between presenting an issue and supporting
it... got it? We are in the business of presenting ideas regardless of whether
we agree with them or not. Oh am sorry I forgot it takes common sense to
know that.. These papers are not the BBC or GRTS.. they are not public
corporations Got it?
Am really embarrassed for you my brother... if you notice you have
increasingly isolated folks from engaging you on these petty debates. I think
though the mind is a terrible thing to waste and you certainly have more to
offer. It is better to engage you no matter how painful it is with the hope
that you will look at the issues with an objective mind, or at least think
before you write or pick up the phone and call someone. Oh one more thing
those credible UDP supporters should stop you from speaking for the
Party.... you don't have the interest of the party period. Just food for
thought...
Regards
Demba
On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 3:58 AM, suntou touray <[log in to unmask]
(mailto:[log in to unmask]) > wrote:
Demba, may be you need to ask more experience media practioners on the
role of editors in the affairs of partisan politics. As for you, no sane UDP
person will even think of you to be neutal in your role as Gainako editor
towards our party. Yes, I am a contributor to Allgambian, the Gambia
Journal, sometimes Maafanta or even Gainako. My articles just like that of all
contributors pass through the hands of editors who reserve the right to either
publish or not to.
Whilst you are an editor of a Gambian news paper who we all believe should
be seen to be neutral even if it is not. Have you ever seen experience
editors taken sides towards the opposition parties, have you ever seen season
editors openly declaring their support for one opposition against the
other? You have to understand the enormous role place on the doors of an editor
Demba. I know you are learning, but learn fast my friend.
My advise to Kejau is just that, an advise. It is up to him to either be
calm and focus on issues or adopt a style he is comfortable with, which may
alianate a section of readers. So Demba blow the PDOIS trumpet as loud as
you can, but also expect us to see your paper as partisan and bias. You
cannot do anything about that.
Suntou for now is not an editor or publisher of any newspaper, when i
become one, my comments in public foras will change.
Be seen to be neutral Demba, if you cannot then, the judegment we pass on
you as the cheif of GPU USA and editor of Gainako is upto us.
Suntou
On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 9:14 PM, Demba Baldeh <[log in to unmask]
(mailto:[log in to unmask]) > wrote:
Wow... I guess this one is really interesting... what makes Suntou think
that he can freely introduce topics here at his disposal but others have
limited freedom to do the same? Is Suntou not affiliated with the
GambiaJournal as a columnist and regularly forward pieces here? What is the difference
between the two? Come on...
This is getting outrageous and decent folks on this forum must try to make
a stop to this Erratic tirade against our freedom of speech. Being
affiliated with the media does not mean you cannot have an opinion politically or
socially. So it is ok with Suntou to openly advocate political support
but not others. I find this dilusional for real. This character need some
isolation and I think it is becoming an embarrassment to be speaking for the
UDP.... without anyone issuing a caution...
If you want to lead you must act and speak like a leader. This is what
Gambians are demanding of our politicians who aspires to lead us.
phew.....
Demba
On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 2:34 AM, suntou touray <[log in to unmask]
(mailto:[log in to unmask]) > wrote:
Kejau, being in the media now places you on a delicate pedestal. Beware of
ways you introduce topics or subjects on forums. A media house must be
seen to be neutral no matter how strongly one feels about an issue. Therefore,
giving unnecessary introduction to the political adventure project of
Halifa is objectionable.
We at the UDP U.K have read the Agenda 2011 weeks ago.
All it contain is the similar PDOIS line of communicating. The Agenda wish
to re-activate the failed STDG attempts to get a leader among the five
opposition parties.
What we say is that, If Halifa is interested in any alliance or
coalitions, he should acknowledge the party that will pull the most votes for the
opposition, that party should lead, just like it happen in many other
countries. Read the whole agenda towards the end, you will see his real
intentions. There is no need for wasting time over a flawed idea from the beginning.
We aim for a party lead alliance, headed by the UDP. There will be one
term limit for the opposition president, and all other issues will follow.
I for one don't buy Halifa's ideas now and even unless he change the core
contentious parts, the core is the leadership. Yet up to now, Halifa is not
willing to swallow his ego and accept that, the UDP by virtue of its
size should head a coalition of opposition parties. Giving more media exposure
to the agenda will not trick us. From when it was published in the Gambia
echo, Gainako, the real goal was known, so let Halifa change route and
accept what will work. A larger part of the paper is patronising to say the
least. Gambians don't need lecturing on politics, all they need is free media
and genuine civil society daily normal dialogue.
With respect.
Suntou
On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 1:16 PM, Kejau Touray <[log in to unmask]
(mailto:[log in to unmask]) > wrote:
Analysis of the objectives, values, hurdles and organisation of Agenda
2011
Analysis of the objectives, values, hurdles and organisation of Agenda 2011
As Gambians approach 2011 presidential and national assembly elections we
are again faced with immense task of organising and participating under
very unfavourable conditions. Many have expressed hope of the opposition
parties getting together to form another coalition, early in the day to avoid
the repeated failings to unite. Many are still mute on such laudable
efforts and as usual treading cautiously, despite the urgency of the situation,
especially organisations such as STGDP and other media outlets on line off
line.
With the state media virtually fixed on the incumbent everyday and even
more in his countrywide campaign trails and absolutely giving no coverage to
the other six active political parties, citizens have to find alternative
and more ingenious means to organise and communicate. This coupled with
enactments of tightening and repressive media laws by the Gambia government
meant that Gambian can never have access to any other alternative view.
Read full story
On Tue 05/01/10 10:30 , Kejau Touray <[log in to unmask]
(mailto:[log in to unmask]) > wrote:
> President of Senegal Due in Banjul this morning to reassure Gambians,
> amidst Gambia government's recent accusations
> Maitre Wade is due in Banjul this morning with a large delegation
> for a working day visit after Daily Observer, Yaya Jammeh's
> propaganda machinery serialized a purported letter from rebel leader,
> Kukoye Samba Sanyang accusing Senegal's president of facilitating
> armed incursions into The Gambia. Gambia government under Yaya Jammeh
> had even written letters to the then UN Secretary General, Kofi Annan
> accusing Wade of helping Gambian dissidents.
> This is the first of the elderly statesman's visit, since 2006
> despite the historical, political as well the geographical close ties
> between Gambia and Senegal. Commentators suggest that Wade is due in
> to amend the obvious strain between the sisterly countries amid
> renewed accusations from The Gambian dictator that Wade meddles in
> Gambia's internal security affairs.This is despite the fact that Yaya
> Jammeh, originally from Casamance, Senegal's troubled region has
> consistently dined and wined with those same rebel leaders whilst
> mediating between the rebels and Senegalese government. Gambian
> disidents were often abducted by those rebels and smuggled into
> Gambia for persecutions,
> Read Full Story
> On Mon 04/01/10 12:34 , wrote:
> > Please find petition below for your perusal and necessary
> signature.
> >
> > _http://www.PetitionOnline.com/NADD0110/petition.html_
(http://www.petitiononline.com/NADD0110/petition.html)
> > To: UDP, PDOIS, PPP, NRP, NDAM Leaderships
> > We the undersigned Gambians and friends of The Gambia, from all
> > walks of life and various political parties and civil
> organisations,
> > wish to petition our opposition political leadership to unite as
> soon
> > as possible to enable us as a united opposition front to end the
> self
> > perpetuating rule of the AFPRC/APRC government,and the impunity we
> > have and restore human rights, democracy and rule of law in The
> > Gambia.
> > We acknowledge the failing in the past, but we wish to urge you
> all
> > to try once again, to forget political and ideological differences
> to
> > forge unity and we your supporters promise hereby to fund any
> > political unity expense, from court trials, the nominations and
> the
> > election campaigns,thereby.
> > Signed,
> > Your humble and consistent supporters,
> > Sincerely,
> > The Undersigned
> > View Current Signatures
> >
> >
>
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