You are probably right!
Virgie and Hoshi
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Angel" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Monday, December 18, 2006 10:21 AM
Subject: Re: Where Jesus Was Born


> That is just one of the reasons, I think, the Angel of the Lord told marry 
> she was blessed among women.  She may have questioned, but she was 
> constantly obedient and never raised one complaint.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "VIRGIE UNDERWOOD" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Monday, December 18, 2006 8:06 AM
> Subject: Re: Where Jesus Was Born
>
>
>> Good morning Angel,
>> As you know we shouldn't judge people but we do.  I hadn't thought of it 
>> that way until Phil sent that message.  Not very many people living on 
>> the earth would accept that kind of situation without complaint.
>> I hope you and your son are doing well.
>> Virgie and Hoshi
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Angel" <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Monday, December 18, 2006 7:34 AM
>> Subject: Re: Where Jesus Was Born
>>
>>
>>> It also shows if the king of glory can be born in a place with manure 
>>> that high, and a stench which would knock anyone over than how can we 
>>> judge the circumstances of others?  How can we say to ourselves, I can't 
>>> go to that persons house because it is full of refuse, or the person or 
>>> house smells. Mary didn't tell Joseph, or God, I deserve better than to 
>>> bare my child in a dirty smelly cave.  My theology teacher said the 
>>> reason the Angels first appeared to the shepherds was because they stank 
>>> of sheep.  They had to sleep with them outdoors because of the smell. 
>>> The wise men , as well, must have been very special to not complained 
>>> but just worshiped and gave thanks.
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "VIRGIE UNDERWOOD" <[log in to unmask]>
>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>> Sent: Monday, December 18, 2006 6:15 AM
>>> Subject: Re: Where Jesus Was Born
>>>
>>>
>>>> When you think about where He was born it is very humbling!  Only 
>>>> someone who loved us would make this kind of sacrifice so that we may 
>>>> live and have eternal life if we accept Him as our Savior.
>>>> Praise His Holy Name.
>>>> Virgie and Hoshi
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "Phil Scovell" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> Sent: Monday, December 18, 2006 12:34 AM
>>>> Subject: Where Jesus Was Born
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>     Bill Rice has been dead for many years.  He was a cowboy
>>>>> early on in his life.  He later went into ministry work.  When he
>>>>> died, he owned a 1500 acre ranch out east in one of the Carolinas,
>>>>> as I recall, but his full time ministry had turned into a ministry
>>>>> for the deaf.  Every summer, about 1500 deaf people came to his
>>>>> ranch and would spend two or three weeks on the ranch.  They rode
>>>>> horses, camped out, sat around huge bond fires, and those trained
>>>>> in sign language would translate everything, including the Bible
>>>>> studies they had, and the preaching services.
>>>>>
>>>>>     Bill went to the Bible lands once, maybe more than once, but
>>>>> this one time I know about, he said, during an off time, he asked
>>>>> the guide to take him to a place that he, the guide, thought was
>>>>> like where Jesus was born.  The guide explained to him that
>>>>> throughout Palestine, especially in those days, they didn't need
>>>>> stables or barns because of all the thousands of small caves.  Of
>>>>> course, many were buried in such caves.  Anybody come to mind
>>>>> right off you can think of?  Jesus for example?  Anyhow, before
>>>>> speaking on this same topic today at church, I read through the
>>>>> Christmas stories, so called, and realizing I didn't see the word
>>>>> "stable" in the stories, I did a computer search.  I was positive
>>>>> I had read the word "stable" in the birth of Jesus passages of
>>>>> Scriptures.  Guess what?  The word isn't even in the Gospels.
>>>>> Yes, it says he was wrapped in swaddling clothes and laid in a
>>>>> manger, but it says nothing about a barn or a stable.
>>>>>
>>>>>     Bill rice said the guide took him to a cave which had been
>>>>> used once as a stable for farm animals.  The cave was empty at the
>>>>> time so Bill asked the man if it was ok for him to go inside.  The
>>>>> guide said that there was no light but he was welcome to enter.
>>>>> Bill said when he stepped inside, the smell nearly knocked him
>>>>> out.  This coming from a cowboy who was used to being around such
>>>>> smells.  Secondly, Bill said that the manure he stepped into came
>>>>> nearly to his boot tops.  the entire cave was this way.  He moved
>>>>> around and examined the manger that was there.  He stood in this
>>>>> cave and realized for the first time in his life, this was the
>>>>> true humble birth of the God of the universe.  He said it changed
>>>>> his life just thinking about it.  It has changed my life since I
>>>>> heard this story.  I trust it will change your thoughts about
>>>>> Christmas and who Jesus really is.  Think of it.  If this was like
>>>>> the place Jesus was born, he was born in a cave, was buried in a
>>>>> cave, and rose again from a cave.  Go Jesus.  Show 'em.
>>>>>
>>>>> Phil.
>>>>>