You are probably right! Virgie and Hoshi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Angel" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Monday, December 18, 2006 10:21 AM Subject: Re: Where Jesus Was Born > That is just one of the reasons, I think, the Angel of the Lord told marry > she was blessed among women. She may have questioned, but she was > constantly obedient and never raised one complaint. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "VIRGIE UNDERWOOD" <[log in to unmask]> > To: <[log in to unmask]> > Sent: Monday, December 18, 2006 8:06 AM > Subject: Re: Where Jesus Was Born > > >> Good morning Angel, >> As you know we shouldn't judge people but we do. I hadn't thought of it >> that way until Phil sent that message. Not very many people living on >> the earth would accept that kind of situation without complaint. >> I hope you and your son are doing well. >> Virgie and Hoshi >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Angel" <[log in to unmask]> >> To: <[log in to unmask]> >> Sent: Monday, December 18, 2006 7:34 AM >> Subject: Re: Where Jesus Was Born >> >> >>> It also shows if the king of glory can be born in a place with manure >>> that high, and a stench which would knock anyone over than how can we >>> judge the circumstances of others? How can we say to ourselves, I can't >>> go to that persons house because it is full of refuse, or the person or >>> house smells. Mary didn't tell Joseph, or God, I deserve better than to >>> bare my child in a dirty smelly cave. My theology teacher said the >>> reason the Angels first appeared to the shepherds was because they stank >>> of sheep. They had to sleep with them outdoors because of the smell. >>> The wise men , as well, must have been very special to not complained >>> but just worshiped and gave thanks. >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "VIRGIE UNDERWOOD" <[log in to unmask]> >>> To: <[log in to unmask]> >>> Sent: Monday, December 18, 2006 6:15 AM >>> Subject: Re: Where Jesus Was Born >>> >>> >>>> When you think about where He was born it is very humbling! Only >>>> someone who loved us would make this kind of sacrifice so that we may >>>> live and have eternal life if we accept Him as our Savior. >>>> Praise His Holy Name. >>>> Virgie and Hoshi >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Phil Scovell" <[log in to unmask]> >>>> To: <[log in to unmask]> >>>> Sent: Monday, December 18, 2006 12:34 AM >>>> Subject: Where Jesus Was Born >>>> >>>> >>>>> Bill Rice has been dead for many years. He was a cowboy >>>>> early on in his life. He later went into ministry work. When he >>>>> died, he owned a 1500 acre ranch out east in one of the Carolinas, >>>>> as I recall, but his full time ministry had turned into a ministry >>>>> for the deaf. Every summer, about 1500 deaf people came to his >>>>> ranch and would spend two or three weeks on the ranch. They rode >>>>> horses, camped out, sat around huge bond fires, and those trained >>>>> in sign language would translate everything, including the Bible >>>>> studies they had, and the preaching services. >>>>> >>>>> Bill went to the Bible lands once, maybe more than once, but >>>>> this one time I know about, he said, during an off time, he asked >>>>> the guide to take him to a place that he, the guide, thought was >>>>> like where Jesus was born. The guide explained to him that >>>>> throughout Palestine, especially in those days, they didn't need >>>>> stables or barns because of all the thousands of small caves. Of >>>>> course, many were buried in such caves. Anybody come to mind >>>>> right off you can think of? Jesus for example? Anyhow, before >>>>> speaking on this same topic today at church, I read through the >>>>> Christmas stories, so called, and realizing I didn't see the word >>>>> "stable" in the stories, I did a computer search. I was positive >>>>> I had read the word "stable" in the birth of Jesus passages of >>>>> Scriptures. Guess what? The word isn't even in the Gospels. >>>>> Yes, it says he was wrapped in swaddling clothes and laid in a >>>>> manger, but it says nothing about a barn or a stable. >>>>> >>>>> Bill rice said the guide took him to a cave which had been >>>>> used once as a stable for farm animals. The cave was empty at the >>>>> time so Bill asked the man if it was ok for him to go inside. The >>>>> guide said that there was no light but he was welcome to enter. >>>>> Bill said when he stepped inside, the smell nearly knocked him >>>>> out. This coming from a cowboy who was used to being around such >>>>> smells. Secondly, Bill said that the manure he stepped into came >>>>> nearly to his boot tops. the entire cave was this way. He moved >>>>> around and examined the manger that was there. He stood in this >>>>> cave and realized for the first time in his life, this was the >>>>> true humble birth of the God of the universe. He said it changed >>>>> his life just thinking about it. It has changed my life since I >>>>> heard this story. I trust it will change your thoughts about >>>>> Christmas and who Jesus really is. Think of it. If this was like >>>>> the place Jesus was born, he was born in a cave, was buried in a >>>>> cave, and rose again from a cave. Go Jesus. Show 'em. >>>>> >>>>> Phil. >>>>>