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VIRGIE UNDERWOOD <[log in to unmask]>
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Phil,
I am glad George is doing better.  His article has given me a wonderful
blessing.  I thank the Lord that George is feeling better.
Virgie and Hoshi
----- Original Message -----
From: "Phil Scovell" <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 8:39 PM
Subject: Latest On George


> George recently got DSL in the little town where they live.  I have not
> talked to him on the phone for probably three weeks or maybe longer.  His
> wife still doesn't want him calling or communicating with me.  Yes, she
> still checks on his emails to see who he has been writing to.  George,
> however, seems to be doing very well.  He has been working for the passed
> three months or so at Walmart and seems to be getting along pretty well
> over
> all.  As is so often the case, this time of year likely won't be too easy
> for them since this will be their daughters first Christmas in Heaven.
> Below is an article George just wrote.  I've posted it on my website, too.
>
> Do We Really Believe and Why Not?
>
>     I am writing this with the true attitude of how some of us
> believe, but do not show or really say but keep it buried,
> sometimes possibly for years, until we finally crack. I will say
> that all in this article is based on true life experiences.
>
>     First I want to address the issue of Jesus Christ as our Lord
> and personal savior. I have been saved since I was 18 years old
> and am 48 years old now. I will give you a brief history of my
> life and will get to the jest of the article.
>
>     When I was 16 my brother Bill was killed in a motorcycle
> accident in Fontana California. He was soon to be 18 in 6 days. My
> father who's name was also Bill died when I was 23 and he was 64
> and he died of Cancer. My mother Alice died when I was 28 of
> pulmonary embolism to the right lung she was 67.  Needless to say
> this was the beginning of a 3 year spiral of depression that was
> keeping me at the point of suicide constantly. I, as do many
> Christians, just tried to tough it out and get over it. The
> depression didn't lift until I was 46 years old but deep down I
> constantly had a nagging of my real true relationship with the
> Lord and didn't know why.  Well next was my sister Jeanne who
> passed away of upper raspatory cancer when I was 46 she was 62.
> Now the straw that broke the camel's back was my daughter Jennifer
> that passed away April 11th 2005 she was 23 I am 48. Where is
> Jesus? I said where is Jesus? Many of you have been where I have
> been and are under so much stress and depression you just can't
> stand it anymore.
>
>     Let me give you the intent of my article. The Apostles, after
> Jesus had been crucified were so depressed and scared they locked
> themselves in a room. Sounds like what I did. The reason they did
> this is because they thought Jesus was dead and all there hopes
> were dashed to pieces. Read the Gospels and you will find this is
> true. Even though they had walked with him for 3 and a half years
> they were still scared. Why? I will tell you why. They needed a
> personal encounter with the Lord. Not just someone telling them
> about him like Mary Magdalene did. She said I have seen the Lord
> they did not believe her. the 2 men on the road to Emmaus saw him
> and reported what they saw. They still didn't believe. When did
> the Apostles believe? When Jesus appeared to them in the locked
> room where they were and, Bingo!  They believed because they saw
> him and were overjoyed he was alive and then they could believe
> everything else he had said. Do you think Jesus was upset because
> they had to see him to believe? Absolutely not.
>
>     Now let's consider another area that preacher's and
> minister's have truly, yes I said truly crippled the body of
> Christ. By saying things like if you need to see Jesus then, bless
> God, you don't believe. Or we walk by faith and not by sight and
> if you have to see to believe then you're not a real Christian. Or
> they will say and talk about him as if he was the only one that
> did not believe. None of them believed until they saw him. Even
> Paul the Apostle didn't believe until he saw him.  Let's go back
> to the Apostles and realize that after they saw Him, they
> believed. What is wrong with you and I seeing Jesus in this
> present day? Absolutely  nothing. I have asked him many times to
> see him and just the other night  an angel appeared on my side of
> the bed while I was asleep and my wife  saw it. Churches are
> crippling the body of Christ by preaching that we  don't need
> experiences with Jesus just believe.  It's not right. He is  no
> respecter of person's. If he wanted to appear to the Apostles he
> wants to appear to you. If you are at a place where I am at now
> with all  the death that has occurred, then just tell him Lord I
> need to see to  believe.  Forget about what anybody says and even
> what your church  teaches. Go to Jesus personally and tell him
> what you need. I always  thought he would get mad at me for asking
> something like that. Guess who  taught me that rubbish? You
> guessed it all the well meaning ministers  and preachers. My
> daughter's passing was the catalyst that almost drove  me out of
> my mind and caused me to fall into depression so severe.
>
>     I  have went through 2 years of intercessory prayer with my
> friend Phil  Scovell and Jesus came and gave me truth and expelled
> the lies of the  enemy. He even appeared to me in many of the
> prayer sessions which was a  great relief to me. If I hadn't gone
> through that I surely would have  committed suicide at the passing
> of my daughter. I never dreamed we would  be without our
> daughter. Yes she is in Heaven but you know I live here  and it's
> tough without her. And I will tell you why. I am not Mr.
> Spiritual as some try to be and then crash and burn. I have told
> the  Lord I need to see you like the Apostles saw you and he is
> not mad at me  and I am not ashamed to have asked him. I pray this
> will take some of  you to a place you will ask the Lord to give
> you what you need because  you are struggling so hard. If you want
> to call my friend Phil and ask  him about me please do so. He has
> been where I have been also.
>
>     Now for  the scriptural references to prove what I have said:
>
> Luke 24 the whole chapter  John 20 and 21 the whole chapter  Mark
> 16 the whole chapter  Acts chapter 9 the whole chapter  1st
> Corinthians 9:1  Acts 7:55-60.
>
> Sincerely;  Your faithful brother and servant to Jesus,
>
> George S. Roberts
>
> Victory Isn't Something You Have; It Is Who You Are.
> www.SafePlaceFellowship.com

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