thank you Kathy,

I found what you say in this email, encouraging.

Yes, the world needs to see a loving church, I like what Jesus says in John

I think it is chapter 13 verses 34-37,

that this is how the world would know that we are his disciples, by our love 
one to another.

Love,
Malcolm.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kathy Du Bois" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 1:37 AM
Subject: Re: Speaking the Truth in Love


> they are accountable to God Phil and I think that He's big enough to take 
> care of Himself.  I can't speak for you, but I know that He hasn't asked 
> me to step in and take His place.  I'll trust Him and His timing.  He 
> knows what He's doing.  Look at the Ted Haggard situation.  It all came 
> out in the wash and it didn't take a lot of nasty, vendictive, back biting 
> articles to do it.  It took God's timing, and that's all.
>         I believe That  it would be wisest to take the advice of Gamaliel 
> to the Sanhedrin, in Acts 5:38-39:  "Therefore, in the present case I 
> advise you:  leave these men alone!  Let them go!  For if their purpose or 
> activity is of human origin, it will fail.  But if it is from God, you 
> will not be able to stop these men; you will only find yourselves fighting 
> against God."  Even Paul didn't bother to get bent out of shape about 
> those who were not preaching the word of God with completely wholesome 
> motives.  He tells the Philippians in chapter 1:17-18, "The former preach 
> out of selfish ambition, not sincerely, supposing that they can stir up 
> trouble for me while I am in chains.  But what does it matter?  The 
> important thing is that in every way, whether false motives or true, 
> Christ is preached.   And because of this, I rejoice."
>         I don't understand why these venimous gossiping articles would 
> continue to be encouraged on this list.  I thought that this was supposed 
> to be a list of encouragement.  these articles are meant only to hurt 
> others who don't do things the way that the writer would like.  There is 
> no edification in these articles, just poison and hatred and I can't see 
> how they can be good for anybody.  I really grieve for those of you who 
> find this type of food for your spiritual appetite pleasing.  I see it 
> only beneficial in building walls and raising defences, not unifying and 
> blessing.  There is just way too much   of this sort of viciousness in the 
> church, which is why, in my opinion,  it is in the sorry state that it is 
> today.
> Kathy
>
>
>
> At 07:28 PM 11/21/2006, you wrote:
>>Sharon,
>>
>>That's the problem.  These guys are not accountable to anyone but
>>themselves.  Attempting to follow the Scriptural instructions doesn't 
>>apply
>>to them so to warn others, articles are written about the things they say,
>>the sermons they preach, the books they write, and also the other people
>>with whom they associate.  By their fruits ye shall know them is all we 
>>have
>>when it comes to exposing the truth, or in this case, the lack of truth, 
>>or
>>the false Gospel, they are proclaiming as Biblical.
>>
>>Phil.
>
>