Phil,

Was this meant to be a private message? :)
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Phil Scovell" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 9:02 PM
Subject: Swearing


> Karen,
>
> It rubs my fur wrong, too, when people take the Lord's name in vain.  Be 
> it
> in movies, TV shows, or even in books or print, as it were.  However, I 
> find
> it much less offensive now that I did even six years ago which seems to be 
> a
> direct result of places I have been healed in my feelings and thoughts, 
> the
> lies that no longer exist in my identity with Christ, and the security I
> experience with Jesus Himself.  Furthermore, many years ago, I began to
> carefully study the true meaning of First John 1:9 which we all likely 
> know
> by memory.  The Holy Spirit pointed something out to me one day concern 
> this
> verse and as I studied it for some time, I finally realized what it was 
> all
> about and the meaning it has for Christians relating to sin.  Swearing, of
> course, is sin but a different type of sin for the lost than a Christian 
> who
> is born again.  Maybe I'll type a little about first John 1:9 to explain
> what I believe but my hands are getting too weak to do much more typing
> tonight.  However, I understand your feelings about still being unable to
> eradicate swearing in your own life at times as a Christian.  Remind me to
> tell you something I did once relating to this very topic that horrified 
> me
> and made me think I would maybe even go to hell for what I said.  It is
> funny because Jesus set me up for it to happen to teach me something very
> spiritually valuable.  Plus, it reminded me of the sense of humor Jesus
> truly has.  You might very well discover, once you hear what I have to say
> and the things I point out about God's sense of humor, that swearing goes
> away due to it being spiritually minimized in your life as a Christian. 
> It
> is the value we place on certain sins that causes us instability in our 
> walk
> with the Lord.  Swearing isn't any different to God than adultery, 
> abortion,
> murder, rape, or anything else.  Yes, that is a very difficult theological
> pill to get down.  I choke on it every time I say it, for that matter, but
> God isn't variable.  If He were, none of us would end up in Heaven.  If we
> can get to the place that we can see sin, as Christians, the way He views
> it, swearing can disappear like a puff of smoke.  It is the value, or
> severity of sinfulness we put on it, that causes us shame, guilt, grief, 
> and
> fear.  If such things as I just mentioned are eliminated by healing and
> understanding of God's nature and the identity of Christ we can enjoy, a 
> lot
> of things aren't important any more and they go away and God is magnified
> within us.
>
> Phil.
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Karen Carter" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 8:13 PM
> Subject: Re: happy Luke SkyWalker Day
>
>
>> Yes.  I hate having to ride city buses because of people cussing up.  I
> cringe when I here the gd word. Although I have to admit.  I have sworn
> myself.  But I hate doing it.  I think I do it becuase I grew up in a
> cussing house.  I am glad I don't swear like I use to though.  But I
> unfortunately i do slip and shouldn't.  I have fasted ice cream for over a
> year you would think I could stop swearing.  Even if it is just once a 
> week
> or so.  It still should be gone. I guess I should ask everyone to ask God 
> to
> take away my swearing problem.
>