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Phil Scovell <[log in to unmask]>
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The Electronic Church <[log in to unmask]>
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Tue, 6 May 2008 08:44:32 -0600
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Sharon,

No, I knew it was going to the list and meant it to be such.  Why?  Does it
appear that it should have been private or something?

Phil.



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Sharon Hooley" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 7:26 AM
Subject: Re: Swearing


> Phil,
>
> Was this meant to be a private message? :)
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Phil Scovell" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 9:02 PM
> Subject: Swearing
>
>
> > Karen,
> >
> > It rubs my fur wrong, too, when people take the Lord's name in vain.  Be
> > it
> > in movies, TV shows, or even in books or print, as it were.  However, I
> > find
> > it much less offensive now that I did even six years ago which seems to
be
> > a
> > direct result of places I have been healed in my feelings and thoughts,
> > the
> > lies that no longer exist in my identity with Christ, and the security I
> > experience with Jesus Himself.  Furthermore, many years ago, I began to
> > carefully study the true meaning of First John 1:9 which we all likely
> > know
> > by memory.  The Holy Spirit pointed something out to me one day concern
> > this
> > verse and as I studied it for some time, I finally realized what it was
> > all
> > about and the meaning it has for Christians relating to sin.  Swearing,
of
> > course, is sin but a different type of sin for the lost than a Christian
> > who
> > is born again.  Maybe I'll type a little about first John 1:9 to explain
> > what I believe but my hands are getting too weak to do much more typing
> > tonight.  However, I understand your feelings about still being unable
to
> > eradicate swearing in your own life at times as a Christian.  Remind me
to
> > tell you something I did once relating to this very topic that horrified
> > me
> > and made me think I would maybe even go to hell for what I said.  It is
> > funny because Jesus set me up for it to happen to teach me something
very
> > spiritually valuable.  Plus, it reminded me of the sense of humor Jesus
> > truly has.  You might very well discover, once you hear what I have to
say
> > and the things I point out about God's sense of humor, that swearing
goes
> > away due to it being spiritually minimized in your life as a Christian.
> > It
> > is the value we place on certain sins that causes us instability in our
> > walk
> > with the Lord.  Swearing isn't any different to God than adultery,
> > abortion,
> > murder, rape, or anything else.  Yes, that is a very difficult
theological
> > pill to get down.  I choke on it every time I say it, for that matter,
but
> > God isn't variable.  If He were, none of us would end up in Heaven.  If
we
> > can get to the place that we can see sin, as Christians, the way He
views
> > it, swearing can disappear like a puff of smoke.  It is the value, or
> > severity of sinfulness we put on it, that causes us shame, guilt, grief,
> > and
> > fear.  If such things as I just mentioned are eliminated by healing and
> > understanding of God's nature and the identity of Christ we can enjoy, a
> > lot
> > of things aren't important any more and they go away and God is
magnified
> > within us.
> >
> > Phil.
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Karen Carter" <[log in to unmask]>
> > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 8:13 PM
> > Subject: Re: happy Luke SkyWalker Day
> >
> >
> >> Yes.  I hate having to ride city buses because of people cussing up.  I
> > cringe when I here the gd word. Although I have to admit.  I have sworn
> > myself.  But I hate doing it.  I think I do it becuase I grew up in a
> > cussing house.  I am glad I don't swear like I use to though.  But I
> > unfortunately i do slip and shouldn't.  I have fasted ice cream for over
a
> > year you would think I could stop swearing.  Even if it is just once a
> > week
> > or so.  It still should be gone. I guess I should ask everyone to ask
God
> > to
> > take away my swearing problem.
> >
>
>

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