Magenta:

First, were his actions appropriate to someone who can only know him for
what he has done in that person's view?

Second, am I out of line in addressing his actions, or have I ever addressed
his worth as a person, rather than his behavior?

At no point in time have I knowingly addressed or judged Ken as a person.  I
have expressed private apologies to him in case I'm in error, as I've been
careful to address only what he's done, and not who he is.

Those of you who know Ken can take what he says along with that knowledge.
I can only take what I see of him, and I have not, to my knowledge, applied
that to anything I don't know about him -- I've basically said his behavior
was out of line.

Perhaps I was out of line, abusing my welcome, or otherwise callous in doing
that, or perhaps I unknowingly DID assault Ken's character.  I have
apologized, and I do so again, while once again asking anyone who wishes to
to call my attention to any attacks I've made on Ken personally.  I'm not
kidding when I say I'll be grateful for it.

Scott



----- Original Message -----
From: Magenta Raine <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2003 10:21 PM
Subject: Re: Addressing an ad-hominm and asking for welcome...


> Scott,
>
> Yes, Ken and I are very blunt and to the point with each other. I call
> something violet, ken calls it reddish.  He says go north, I say go
east...
>
> In no way do I expect him to change. I just say what I see as the truth,
and
> Kern says, I disagree.
> I know he has been undergoing tremendous pain lately, and that is why I
more
> or less ignored his barb, and only hope he feels better soon. This is
> friendship. Friendship understands and doesn't yell back...
> doesn't retaliate.
>
>
> Mag
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including
> business cards, etc. I am also a disability rights activist.
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