Is it an auto tuner? maybe if you disconnect power to if it is, for about 30 
seconds, reset it, that might be something to try. I don't know which tuner 
you're using.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Junior Lolley" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2011 7:03 PM
Subject: Re: antennas out of service


> John, that what is making me believe the tuner went south.
> I knew the loop would show as a short.
> But the g5rv not working at the same time.
> I just wanted to try all options.
> I really want to thank you guys for your help it is very much appreciated.
>
>
> Junior Lolley KG4itd
> Liberty County E. C.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: For blind ham radio operators [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> On Behalf Of John Miller
> Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2011 6:59 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: antennas out of service
>
> A loop will usually show a short as it does make a full loop, I'm tending 
> to
>
> wonder about your tuner, As was said, the likelihood of both antennas 
> going
> at once, unless  something got them directly and I'd think you'd know if 
> it
> did, it's just not all that likely.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Junior Lolley" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2011 6:54 PM
> Subject: Re: antennas out of service
>
>
>> Colin, I tried connecting the antenna feed lines directly to the radio.
>> I did both antennas and got receive off both antennas.
>> In fact both antennas were receiving great.
>> I do get receive  off of both antennas while connected to the tuner.
>> I am beginning to think the tuner went south on me.
>> Now on the coax for the loop when I put the continuity meter it does show
>> a
>> short somewhere.
>> Now the g5rv shows no short.
>> I am using a LDG AT250 PRO AUTO TUNER.
>> i DIDN'T HAVE ANY OF THE ANTENNAS CONNECTED UP WITH THE BAD WEATHER GOING
>> ON.
>> I have a short jumper going from the 706 mark II g to the tuner.
>> The continuity meter shows no short in the jumper.
>> Thanks for all of the ideas.
>>
>>
>> Junior Lolley KG4itd
>> Liberty County E. C.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: For blind ham radio operators 
>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>> On Behalf Of colin McDonald
>> Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2011 6:24 PM
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: antennas out of service
>>
>> junior:
>> I don't know your set up well enough, but try connecting the coax feed
>> lines
>>
>> coming directly from the antennas, directly to the radio and see if you
>> can
>> at least get a noise level.
>> sounds like there is an issue with the tuner or parts there of.
>> It's pretty huge odds that both antennas failed at the same time...unless
>> you did get lightening and it blew out the tuner or something.
>> though I doubt that at this point.
>> Do you get any noise level right now with the original set up? or is 
>> there
>> no noise, no receive etc?
>> If that is the case, try connecting the antenna or antennas directly to
>> the
>> radio and see if you get noise.  If you do, then you'll know it is
>> something
>>
>> in the chain between the radio and the antenna feed lines.
>> 73
>> Colin, V A6BKX
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Junior Lolley" <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2011 4:02 PM
>> Subject: Re: antennas out of service
>>
>>
>>> John, using your suggestion I replaced the jumper with an almost brand
>>> new
>>> one no joy.
>>> I don't have an antenna switch.
>>> The tuner has a button on it to switch from one antenna to the other.
>>> I put the continuity meter on the loop coax there is a short somewhere
>>> either on the short piece of coax or the ladder line.
>>> I sure can't climb that tower due to medical restrictions.
>>> I am glad you are coming up with some suggestions.
>>> Thanks very much John.
>>>
>>>
>>> Junior Lolley KG4itd
>>> Liberty County E. C.
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: For blind ham radio operators
>>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>>> On Behalf Of John Miller
>>> Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2011 5:39 PM
>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>> Subject: Re: antennas out of service
>>>
>>> It must be a jumper, or antenna switch if you have that, unless somehow
>>> both
>>>
>>> antennas came down, but if they're still up, it's got to be something
>>> close
>>> to the radio I'd think, make sure to check everything, jumper from the
>>> radio
>>>
>>> to the tuner, everything. The radio's just rolling back on power like a
>>> bad
>>> SWR? that's almost got to be something inside that both use, jumpers,
>>> something with the tuner, maybe a bad connection, something.
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Junior Lolley" <[log in to unmask]>
>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>> Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2011 5:21 PM
>>> Subject: Re: antennas out of service
>>>
>>>
>>>> John, thanks for the idea but each antenna has a separate coax for it.
>>>> I will try another jumper.
>>>> Any ideas is appreciated.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Junior Lolley KG4itd
>>>> Liberty County E. C.
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: For blind ham radio operators
>>>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>>>> On Behalf Of John Miller
>>>> Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2011 5:18 PM
>>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>>> Subject: Re: antennas out of service
>>>>
>>>> Wow, both of them? sounds like a bad jumper or some coax that's common
>>>> to
>>>> the 2 antennas.
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "Junior Lolley" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2011 5:12 PM
>>>> Subject: antennas out of service
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I don't know what happened yet but both the loop and the g5rv are not
>>>>> working.
>>>>> I disconnected them last night because of the possibility of bad
>>>>> weather.
>>>>> I hooked them up this morning no joy.
>>>>> Every time I try to tune either antenna the 706 mark II g goes into
>>>>> shutdown.
>>>>> I will catch you when and if I get them working again.
>>>>> 73 to all.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Junior Lolley KG4itd
>>>>> Liberty County E. C.