no, I didn't see that. I may have to check my message history here. Normally I catch such things fast and bookmark them.
-eric
On Feb 10, 2014, at 2:46 PM, Buddy Brannan wrote:
> Did you not get the link I sent to the G4ILO Wonder Loop? It=92s =
> probably got the best text description I=92ve seen.=20
> --
> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
> Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY
>
>
>
> On Feb 10, 2014, at 4:37 PM, eric oyen <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>> I understand that. However, I still get the impression. call it an =
> over =3D
>> developed sense of paranoia. :)
>> =20
>> anyway, back to ham radio.
>> =20
>> ANyone around here have experience putting together a magnetic =3D
>> transmitting loop? It seems I can't find a good verbal description on =
> =3D
>> how to properly build one. lots of images, but nothing I can use.
>> =20
>> -eric
>> =20
>> On Feb 10, 2014, at 2:12 PM, Howard, W A 9 Y B W wrote:
>> =20
>>> Eric,
>>> =3D20
>>> I have read every message on this thread.
>>> =3D20
>>> I don't think anyone was intentionally bashing those of you who use =3D=
>
>> Macs. I=3D20
>>> think they were just trying to point out that it seems to be more =3D
>> prevalent=3D20
>>> from them.
>>> =3D20
>>> Howard #3
>>> =3D20
>>> ----- Original Message -----=3D20
>>> From: "eric oyen" <[log in to unmask]>
>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>> Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 11:41 AM
>>> Subject: Re: New blind-hams list?
>>> =3D20
>>> =3D20
>>>> I also agree. SOmething has to be done as we mac users (and there =
> are =3D
>> =3D3D
>>>> far more of us than "just a few") are growing in number. I have =3D
>> checked =3D3D
>>>> every way that I can and there appears to b no way to change how =3D
>> apple =3D3D
>>>> mail sends its messages. In fact, I have looked at one of the sent =
> =3D3D
>>>> messages using a hex editor and it seems that apple mail isn't =3D
>> sending =3D3D
>>>> with those extraneous characters in each message. This clearly means =
> =3D
>> =3D3D
>>>> that the fault exists elsewhere and there is nothing we blind mac =3D
>> users =3D3D
>>>> can do about it from our end. SO, telling those of us who use macs =
> to =3D
>> =3D3D
>>>> take off just isn't going to solve the problem. Its just going to =
> =3D3D
>>>> alienate us blind mac users who are also hams.
>>>> =3D20
>>>> Now, I joined this group because its one of a very few that actually =
> =3D
>> =3D3D
>>>> cater to blind hams, their specific knowledge and tips on how to =3D
>> operate =3D3D
>>>> radio equipment. I still want to participate. However, I am sensing =
> a =3D
>> =3D3D
>>>> certain level of hostility toward myself (and others who use macs). =
> =3D
>> It =3D3D
>>>> is making me feel less than welcome. I don't have the $2,000 it =
> takes =3D
>> to =3D3D
>>>> get a proper windows machine with jaws on it just to satisfy 1 =3D
>> mailing =3D3D
>>>> list.
>>>> =3D20
>>>> so, I think I shall shut up and just lurk.
>>>> =3D20
>>>> -eric
>>>> =3D20
>>>> On Feb 10, 2014, at 8:32 AM, Steve Dresser wrote:
>>>> =3D20
>>>>> Tom,
>>>>> =3D3D20
>>>>> =3D3D46rom everything I've heard, the extraneous character problem =
> =3D
>> can't =3D3D
>>>> be solved=3D3D20
>>>>> by individuals, which is what's causing the frustration. If =
> someone =3D
>> =3D3D
>>>> knows=3D3D20
>>>>> of an effective solution, please share with the rest of us.
>>>>> =3D3D20
>>>>> Steve
>>>>> =3D3D20
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----=3D3D20
>>>>> From: "Tom Brennan" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>> Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 09:59
>>>>> Subject: Re: New blind-hams list?
>>>>> =3D3D20
>>>>> =3D3D20
>>>>>> This is a well over done but somewhat interesting thread. The =3D3D=
>
>>>> problems=3D3D20
>>>>>> seem to
>>>>>> be with a small number of people who are complaining about =3D
>> message=3D3D20
>>>>>> formatting.
>>>>>> The solution seems to be to create a new list just because of =
> those =3D
>> =3D3D
>>>> few=3D3D20
>>>>>> folks.
>>>>>> It seems that it would be far easier for those folks to solve the =
> =3D3D=3D
>> =20
>>>> problem=3D3D20
>>>>>> from
>>>>>> their end rather than disrupt a list which is running well and has =
> =3D
>> =3D3D
>>>> run=3D3D20
>>>>>> well for
>>>>>> years.
>>>>>> =3D3D20
>>>>>> Another consideration is the loss of privacy that moving the list =
> =3D
>> to=3D3D20=3D3D
>>>> =3D20
>>>>>> someone
>>>>>> like Yahoo will involve. It almost seems as though people =
> don't=3D20
>>>>>> care=3D3D20=3D3D
>>>> =3D20
>>>>>> about such
>>>>>> these days but there are enough of us on the list who are older =
> who=3D20=3D
>> =20
>>>>>> I=3D3D20=3D3D
>>>> =3D20
>>>>>> would
>>>>>> think would be concerned about this.
>>>>>> =3D3D20
>>>>>> My vote would be to leave well enough alone.
>>>>>> =3D3D20
>>>>>> Tom
>>>>>> =3D3D20
>>>>>> =3D3D20
>>>>>> Tom Brennan KD5VIJ, CCC-A/SLP
>>>>>> web page http://titan.sfasu.edu/~g_brennantg/sonicpage.html
>>>>>> =3D3D20=3D20
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