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Phil Scovell <[log in to unmask]>
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Sat, 8 May 2010 10:58:50 -0600
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It will make the inverted vee configuration tighter but that's better than 
no antenna at all.

Phil.
K0NX



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Phil Scovell" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2010 10:51 AM
Subject: Re: G5RV installation questions.


> How tall is the mast at the top of the 30 foot tower?  If you can get a 11
> foot or 16 foot mast on top, it will make a big difference in fitting the
> G5RV into the smaller space you have available.
>
> Phil.
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> WWW.RedWhiteAndBlue.ORG
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Rick" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2010 9:04 AM
> Subject: Re: G5RV installation questions.
>
>
>> The tower is 30 feet, and I think it's like 25 feet from the back porch 
>> to
>> the back fence.
>> Not much room at all.
>> Like I said along side the house its 79 feet from the front sidewalk to
>> the
>> back fence.
>> The backyard is maybe 40 feet wide, and the side yard is maybe 20, but
>> then
>> you have the power line coming into the house in the backyard so that 
>> cuts
>> the room I can use in the back by half.
>> On top the tower is an old Antron 99 that's broke and will be coming 
>> down.
>> Also there is a dual band mag mount for my TmV-7A up there.
>> I have an old MFJ 989 Versa tuner I use for the amp.
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Steve Forst" <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Friday, May 07, 2010 10:04 AM
>> Subject: Re: G5RV installation questions.
>>
>>
>>> Since you have already ordered the G5RV, I guess you are committed to
>>> going
>>> that way. But just for the heck of it:  How tall is the tower, what is 
>>> on
>>> top of it, and what is the greatest distance from the tower to the end 
>>> of
>>> your property?   There may be options here, including slopers, or 
>>> sloping
>>> dipoles, or some other configuration of the G5RV using the tower.
>>>
>>> It's always nice to put the dipole up just like in the book, with 
>>> proper
>>> angle, nice straight wires and feed point at the highest point.   Many 
>>> of
>>> us
>>> do just fine with less than textbook installations: wires going off at
>>> odd
>>> angles and taking a few bends along the way.   More than one way to skin
>>> a
>>> cat, so think it through and consider all possibilities.
>>>
>>> BTW Since I know you have an amp, I hope  that you have a high power
>>> external tuner in the shack.   The G5RV needs a tuner to work all bands
>>> with
>>> the possible exception of 20 meters, and the tuner needs to handle  all
>>> the
>>> power your amp can put out.
>>>
>>>
>>> 73, Steve KW3A
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Rick" <[log in to unmask]>
>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>> Sent: Friday, May 07, 2010 9:20 AM
>>> Subject: Re: G5RV installation questions.
>>>
>>>
>>>> The only power line is the one that comes into the house, and its in 
>>>> the
>>>> backyard.
>>>> I'm putting the antenna along side the house.
>>>> If I used my tower for a center support, the wire would have to go over
>>>> or
>>>> under the power line, and that's not a good idea.
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "Steve Forst" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 9:39 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: G5RV installation questions.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Rick,
>>>>>
>>>>> Don't think you are going to home brew any kind of self supporting
>>>>> mast
>>>>> to
>>>>> get the center up to the 30-35 foot level, which is a good height to
>>>>> shoot
>>>>> for.     Whether using metal, fiberglass, pvc, or wood, they will all
>>>>> need
>>>>> some guying.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Also not sure I understand your dimensions, but if you only have 79
>>>>> feet,
>>>>> that will be tight to get a 102 foot  antenna into, although it can be
>>>>> done.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, the ladder line or twin lead should be kept away from metal, so 
>>>>> if
>>>>> using a metal mast, use pvc standoffs to keep it a few inches away 
>>>>> from
>>>>> the
>>>>> mast.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Since it's your first wire antenna install, be very, very, sure you
>>>>> know
>>>>> where the power lines are, and keep far away.  Baked ham is nice, but
>>>>> not
>>>>> when it is a sizzling pile in the back yard.
>>>>>
>>>>> Perhaps a sighted ham in your area could scout out your QTH.  Someone
>>>>> with
>>>>> a
>>>>> little experience could possibly give you some ideas on attachment
>>>>> points
>>>>> or guying  suggestions not obvious to you or your helper.  It might
>>>>> save
>>>>> you
>>>>> some time, effort, money, and give you  a better performing  antenna 
>>>>> in
>>>>> the
>>>>> end.
>>>>>
>>>>> 73, Steve KW3A
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From: "Rick" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 3:22 PM
>>>>> Subject: G5RV installation questions.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi list.
>>>>>> I just ordered a G5Rv, and would like to ask you all for advice on 
>>>>>> how
>>>>>> =
>>>>>> to install it.
>>>>>> I've never put up a wire antenna before, and my help has never put up
>>>>>> =
>>>>>> any kind of antenna, so I'll have to provide the know how.
>>>>>> Here's my situation.
>>>>>> I plan to put it up as an inverted V.
>>>>>> I have 79 feet by no more than 20 feet to put it in.
>>>>>> I didn't measure the width.
>>>>>> I cant attach anything to the house, so it will have to be a free =
>>>>>> standing mast.
>>>>>> I don't have room to put in guywires.
>>>>>> My shack is on the second floor.
>>>>>> Now for my questions.
>>>>>> How much free standing mast can I safely use?
>>>>>> What do I do with the ladder line?
>>>>>> If I understand right there is 33 feet of ladder line, and it's not a
>>>>>> =
>>>>>> good idea to have it near metal.
>>>>>> Thanks in advance for any help, and 7 3.
>>>>>>
>>>>
> 

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