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Anwar J Goins <[log in to unmask]>
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Raw Food Diet Support List <[log in to unmask]>
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Mon, 8 Oct 2001 17:46:15 -0400
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I'm not talking about Islam. Islam and the Quran are not the same don't
get it twisted.

Godbless,
Anwar

Liza May wrote:
>
> So if one is wronged, one is to fight. And those who believe in God are
> called to unite.
>
> I don't know much about any of the religions, and I know nothing about
> Islam other than what you've told me here, so my next words are just me
> guessing here out of total ignorance.
>
> The two things you've described above, when taken together, justify the
> idea of a Jihad. From the little I do know about Christianity, Judaism
> and Buddhism, I don't recall ever hearing about the idea of a Holy War
> as being a central theme to the religion. The idea that if one Muslim
> (or believer in God, however "believer" or "God" is defined by whoever's
> interpreting the Koran) is wronged then all Muslims (or Believers in
> God) are called on to unite, and to fight, is different than other
> religions, from the little I know.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Anwar J Goins" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Monday, October 08, 2001 4:15 PM
> Subject: Re: Love Conquers All
>
>
> > Sorry if I was being unclear. When one is being wronged one is to
> fight.
> > When one is not being wronged then peace is the order of the day. I
> said
> > nothing about Muslim. The passage, as just about all of the Quran,
> addresses
> > humanity but in
> > particular the whole of the Qur'an is an advice for those who believe
> in
> > God and the last day. In the Qur'an there is no separation of church
> and
> > state but the church allows for freedom of religion and urges a
> community to
> > come to the aid of other oppressed communities. So  the followers of
> > the Qur'an would have to contract treaties and come to the aid of
> > neighbors because of this treaty and religious duty. Nonetheless,
> those
> > separate communites as long as they are friendly are
> > allowed freedom of religion and are not to be oppressed and treated
> unfairly.
> > I say separate communities because those who believe in God and the
> last
> > day are called to unite. So those who are not in this circle would not
> be
> > apart of this community even if they lived amidst this community. But
> as
> > long as any outside community promotes good and well-being and are in
> > compliance with
> > justice they are to be treated with excellence as everyone should. The
> > Qur'an promotes exactly this. Would you like passages?  This is what
> I'm
> > saying. I hope that was clear.
> >
> > Godblessm
> > Anwar
> >
> > Liza May wrote:
> > >
> > > > freedom of religion is key and so is being peacable as long as one
> > > > is not being wronged or fought and driven out of one's home for
> the
> > > > religion, order they the followers of the Qur'an are to espouse
> and
> > > for
> > > > all who are submissive to and for God.
> > >
> > > I am having a little trouble understanding your sentences, in this
> email
> > > and the one before. I understand the first part of what's above, but
> I
> > > don't understand the part starting with the word "order."
> > >
> > > Does the first part mean that freedom and being peacable are only
> key if
> > > one is not being wronged?
> > >
> > > > Freedom to practice one's
> > > > religion, order and ways of life are key to the Qur'an. When this
> is
> > > not
> > > > upheld then one is to defend one's self and to fight until those
> who
> > > > threaten this freedom of order, religion and way of life is
> > > non-existent
> > >
> > > The freedom here is freedom of who? Of the Muslim, who then is to
> fight
> > > until those who threaten are "non-existent" ?
> > >
> > > Hmmm. Is this really from the Qur'an?
> > >
> >
>

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