Hi Tom, all,

I just have to speak up and say I know exactly who Tom is referring to, I was on
his list briefly, and he does have some valuable information.  However, overall,
in general, he is a fanatic, continually posts unreasonable and illogical items,
is hostile.  Tom's statements regarding this other list are accurate.

OTOH if you don't take him too seriously, and do not get sucked into his
melodrama, sign up for his list if interested - but take it as free
entertainment - it's sort of amusing in a way.

Regards
Roberta

"Thomas E. Billings" wrote:


> It was not JR's list, it was a different raw e-mail list whose moderator
> runs his list like a third-world dictator. The same moderator portrays
> himself as a promoter of "true" science while in fact his theories are pure
> crackpot crank science. That moderator misrepresents my writings
> (and those of others) on a regular basis.  The same moderator
> often demands hard proof for every statement he disagrees with while he
> makes bogus claims for which he has little or no proof. Also,
> the same moderator recently appeared to suggest that he was an example
> of raw success; meanwhile I was sent a copy of a post by him that was made
> less than a year ago, talking of his own binge eating (amd another post by
> him, suggesting that he might be manic depressive).
>
> Finally, the raw crank science forum exists only because the moderator was
> thrown off multiple e-mail lists for a chronic inability to behave like
> a civil human being. His associate, a frequent poster on the raw forum,
> also presents himself as an example of science - yet his associate
> was thrown off the sci-veg list in 1996, for an inability to document
> his own crank science claims re: raw foods.
>
> With hostile fanatics pretending to be "scientists" , and promoting
> raw via crackpot, intellectually dishonest crank science theories,
> is it any wonder that fruitarianism/raw has the reputation among
> legitimate scientists, as the "lunatic fringe"?