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David Culpepper <[log in to unmask]>
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Tue, 16 Jun 1998 17:24:50 -0500
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David:
>> What is your experience with eating no animal products over a long period
>> of time?  Another news group constantly  says that a person will develop
>> B-12 deficiency symptoms.

>>I have had NO animal products since 1993, and no B12 supplementation. I was
>>taught the same thing in school, that vegetarians would get B12
>>deficiencies. I know people that have been strict vegans for decades with no B12
>>deficiency, so obviously what is taught in medical, chiropractic and other professional
>>schools about this is wrong. If it were true, all of us would be sick from
>>this. Have never met a vegan that had such a problem.
>>It may be a possibility for lacto-ovo vegetarians. The problem is not the
>>diet, we don't get it in our diet. The problem is in the colon. More recent
>>research has shown that e-coli, or some other bacteria in the colon make
>>B12. This is absorbed in the ascending colon or the distal illeum. I am not sure
>>which, but the long or it is that we have synergistic bacteria that make
>>.B12, and vegans just dont have B12 deficiencies.
>>The way we, and all people are vulnerable to this problem, is if there is
>>damage to absorption areas in the intestines.  This can be from pathology
>>such as crohns, or ulcers etc. It is far more common from the ingestion of
>>antibiotics which kill the normal flora in the colon. So that a vegan, or
>>meat eater that takes antibiotics may become B12 deficient by loosing their
>>normal flora. Meat eaters fare better on this because they consume it in liver or
>>other  animal foods. A vegetarian on a long term anti biotic course needs to
>>supplement B12 as do lacto ovo vegetarians, who take antibiotics
>>continously, as do meat and chicken eaters, with particularily thier milk products, and I
>>assume eggs as well and destroy their own B12 producing bacteria. A little
>>side note on this,  in my opinion, the lacto-ovo vegetarian diet is not much
>>better than a meat eating diet. Milk  products are terrible things to put in
>>the body. They account for a lot of colon disease and allergies as well
>>as set the individual up for B12 deficiencies. I do not have access to a med school
>>library today, but I bet if you check the research on vegetarians needing
>>B12, all the studies were done on lacto-ovo vegetarians. And I shouldn't be too
>>critical on this, that diet is  a transition to a more healthful one, the
>>vegan diet, and anyone on a lacto ovo vegetarian should be congratulated and
>>encouraged, it is certainly a large step in the right direction to better
>>health.

>>would appreciate posting to the other newsgroup. They are misleading people.
>>Love a good debate. let me know their address if you would.
>>thanks Jerry
>>Note -- This was posted to another news group but thought that it would
>>be very appropriate here


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