Ellie:
You will find this covered in the lay version of the article on the
Primal Psychotherapy Page at http://www.net-connect.net/~jspeyrer/

Peter:
Maybe you could point me to the relevant passages?  I could not find
anything in your article covering this specific issue.

You might want to reread the original technical version for evidence.

Ellie:
The validity of the toxic mind theory is in the scientific evidence put
forth in the paper, and not in the success or failure of the various
therapies.

Peter:
Spoken like a true idealist. :)  But surely the fact that these
"regressive" therapies that you so whole-heartedly are endorsing have
not stood the test of time has some relevance - especially to the
unsuspecting public who reads your article and gets inspired to invest
hope, time and money into them but who instead of getting well risk
ending up as disillusioned, therapy casualties who probably would have
been better off not having entered the treacherous world of
(psychodynamic) self-improvement in the first place.

Sounds like some misdirected anger at therapists. Again the validity of
the theory comes from the scientific evidence. I make it clear that this
theory will help therapists do a better job if they study it.

Ellie:
Persons who have recovered from this endogenous toxicosis by means of
experiential therapy, primal therapy, and self-help measures have been
relieved of a variety of physical disorders and generally enjoy good
health.

Peter:
Unfortunately, there is very little if any evidence to support such
claims.

Read all the tests done by Janov on post-primal people. There is tons of
evidence and will be lots more if researchers correlate the theory with
the already existing evidence.  Cleared scientologists don't get colds.
There aren't enough people yet who are post-primal too convince the
unbelieving.

Ellie:
There are many reasons for the poor track record of various therapies.
The most important, I think, is because therapists do not help the
client redirect anger during the session. A person could be in primal
therapy and have a primal but not direct anger toward early abusers. A
successful primal that helps to relieve symptoms is one in which the
person redirects anger toward early abusers.

Peter:
Primal therapy is very much about redirecting not only anger but also
need and fear

Yes, fear is a sign anger is trying to emerge and a good time to
redirect it.

  In
fact ten thousands of primal patients have spent hundreds of hours each
venting and directing their childhood pains and frustrations towards
these figures - in most cases with only sore throats and empty wallets
to show for it. ;-)

This is because they did not redirect the anger.

Ellie