Milutin,

I find your comments below  typical of the ad hominem arguments so
beloved of people when they can't refute a position.  I for one would
appreciate it if you would refrain from attacking people without
having the respect to point out the basis for your attacks.  Isn't the
lack of respect for one another a major reason for conflicts?

I am one who found Martin's statements quite well founded, and
appreciated his input.  Also, please note that he is from Norway, and
might be exposed to media coverage of a vastly different quality than
the US.....

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From: Milutin <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]>
Date: March 30, 1999 7:13 PM
Subject: Re: [CHOMSKY] Fwd: [democracyu] Solomon: "Media Beat": how
not to cover an American attack


>I don't think it is off to a fine start, but it does look like the
>military objective of neutralizing the Serb military might succeed to
>a high enough degree to then be able to send in a NATO ground force
>that can maintain a stable situation in which a political settlement
>can be reached.
>
>martin

Your comments were so off the wall, I don't have the time to respond.
here is some quotes instead...

"...it is possible for an American president to stand up and proclaim
that
concern for human rights is 'the Soul of our foreign policy,' and to
be
listened to with respect-even critics limit themselves to noting
‘contradictions,' ‘inconsistencies,' and ‘deviations,' thus
reinforcing the
basic principle of the propaganda system, that the Untied States is
committed to a program of freedom and human rights (as is the West in
general), one of the great lies of modern history, and one of the most
effective."  --  Noam Chomsky

"I have the greatest admiration for your propaganda. Propaganda in the
West
is carried out by experts who have had the best training in the
world -- in
the field of advertizing -- and have mastered the techniques with
exceptional proficiency ... Yours are subtle and persuasive; ours are
crude
and obvious ... I think that the fundamental difference between our
worlds,
with respect to propaganda, is quite simple. You tend to believe yours
...
and we tend to disbelieve ours."  --  a Soviet correspondent based
five
years in the U.S.

To finish it off, here is the media-bashing man at his best....

"When the mass media in some foreign countries serve as megaphones for
the
rhetoric of their government, the result is ludicrous propaganda. When
the
mass media in our country serve as megaphones for the rhetoric of the
U.S.
government, the result is responsible journalism."  --  Norman Solomon

I don't really feel like getting into a debate with you, but this
email is
really for the people who wasted their time reading your comments.

Media and Military apologetics bother me a lot.

Milutin

Sheep tremble and here come tha votes
Thrown from tha throat, new cages and scapegoats