Hi Howard!
I've been saying this about TV remotes for years, but you now can't seem to
buy a TV without one. It isn't even an excuse for laziness exactly because
it's the *only wa to make the appliance work. I'd also like to be able to
call someone without encountering voicemail. My mother in law, who is 81,
recently told me she didn't want that option when she was reorganising her
phone service. I assured her this confirmed she was wise, but she should
probably thank the company that the choice still existed. If her health
deteriates as expected, the next time I need to assist with this task, it
won't matter if she doesn't want it. Removal won't even be an option, so
she'll just have to ignore it, which won't be hard to teach, hi hi.
73,
Dave
-----Original Message-----
From: For blind ham radio operators [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
On Behalf Of Howard, W A 9 Y B W
Sent: Friday, 13 November 2015 6:18 a.m.
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: accessibility of appliances
I wouldn't have a problem controlling my appliances with my phone as long as
the app would load the washer and dryer with the clothes, fold and hang them
as well as load the dish washer and put the dishes away.
While we're at it, we might as well have the phone fix dinner, eat it for us
and we all would loose some weight since we will be sitting on are ass with
our phones.
Why would you need or want to control an appliance from afar if you need to
be there to interact with it?
If all this B S can be dreamed-up, accessibility could be added.
Now, I need to go and take my blood pressure meds.
Howard #3
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Gammon" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 8:37 PM
Subject: Re: accessibility of appliances
> Well Jordan, it sounds like we might all be forced in to buying Iphones or
> androids if in fact they have app's to control our washers etc. Boy,
> that's
> scary, the internet of Things. I am reading a book by Ted Coppel called
> Lights Out where he discusses a cyber attack that will take down the
> electrical grid. Very interesting and thought provoking, Jim
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jordan Gallacher
> Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 5:45 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: accessibility of appliances
>
> It's definitely a problem that I do not know of any solutions to since
> quite
> a few appliances have gone to either a flat panel for the controls or a
> touchscreen. I have heard of a few that do have apps to be able to
> control
> them, but I cannot say anything other than that since I have never tried
> any
> of them.
> Jordan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: For blind ham radio operators [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> On Behalf Of Jim Gammon
> Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 7:30 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: accessibility of appliances
>
> Yup, right you are about washers and dryers, at least our new front
> loading
> ones. I can start ours, but that's all. I have been meaning to contact
> the
> manufacturer about accessibility features, such as markings etc, but have
> not done so. I bet there aren't any. Even when you go into most stores
> to
> check out stuff it's non-operative and the sales people have no idea what
> you are asking about. I will make myself a note to ask about
> accessibility.
> 73, Jim
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: John Miller <[log in to unmask]
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Date sent: Wed, 11 Nov 2015 20:09:32 -0500
> Subject: Re: Accessibility of APRS?
>
> Someone I dog sit for now and then, also a ham but anyway, last time I was
> there I tried to use his washing machine. If you set it and forget it you
> only need to hit the start button and the power button I think.
> If you
> change modes or anything, water temperature, none of the controls stop
> they
> just spin for ever, with clicks at the settings but bump it with the power
> button off it will spin but not change anything so you can't mark it or
> anything. I'm glad I have the old style but I'm sure no matter how many
> times I fix it, it won't last forever.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim Gammon
> Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 7:33 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Accessibility of APRS?
>
> Yes, right you are. We once got one of those dumb coffee makers and I
> took
> it back because it was not very accessible. My greatest pet peeve is that
> technology can be so liberating and because of the idiots who make much of
> it don't consider putting in some simple beeps, or even speech, things
> that
> should or could be more accessible often wind up being unusuable for blind
> folks. Ok, down off my soap box. Well, one last thing, let's hear it for
> Universal Design! Jim WA6EKS
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jim Shaffer <[log in to unmask]
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Date sent: Wed, 11 Nov 2015 15:15:15 -0600
> Subject: Re: Accessibility of APRS?
>
> Eric, getting all our blind friends to become hams wouldn't do it either.
> For example, look at all the products that are not accessible, for
> example,
> the Keurig 2.0 coffee brewers. Are there even any accessible new
> Sirius/XM
> radios?
> --
> Jim, ke5al
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Eric Oyen
> Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 1:42 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Accessibility of APRS?
>
> actually, there is a way.
> method 1: use a concurrent table that contains columns for station ID, =
> LAT, LONG, DIrection of travel, Velocity, etc.
>
> method 2 might involve using an app like apple maps (on their
> iPhone) =
> which can tell the location of a pointer on the map (used in turn by =
> turn
> navigation).
>
> Honestly, I think the first method is easier to achieve.
>
> The problem with map description is that it needs a lot of information =
> not
> easily presentable and also needs a large amount of bandwidth for =
> retrieval of location specifics in real time.
>
> I have noticed this issue about a lot of the digital mode software for =
> ham
> radio. almost none of it is properly accessible for the blind =
> (especially
> dm88 in HRD). getting anyone to acknowledge that we (as a = community of
> hams) even exists is starting to become a full time job = (and sometimes
> even major frustration as I get the impression that they = don't want to
> hear from us).
>
> perhaps what we need to do is to find every blind person we can and =
> encourage them to become hams. The larger our population in a specific =
> population market, the more we get listened to. Its simple, direct and =
> easy to do.
>
> DE n7zzt Eric
>
> On Nov 11, 2015, at 12:05 PM, John Miller wrote:
>
> I've experimented with APRS and I don't see a way, It shows actual = maps
> on=20 the screen with people pinpointed on them, nothing is described that
> I
> =
> can=20
> tell except maybe longitude and latitude and I'm not even totally sure =
> about=20
> that for sure. I don't see it being able to be accessible in it's =
> current=20
> state and not sure there's really any way they could make it = accessible.
> =20
> -----Original Message-----=20
> From: Matthew Chao
> Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 1:08 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Accessibility of APRS?
> =20
> Hi, Folks. I have a Kenwood TMV710A which has APRS. Is there any way to
> make APRS accessible? Thanks.--Matt, N1IBB.=20
>
>
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