Thanks, Ron. That gives me a better idea of what I need to do to make the
antenna. Keep us posted on how well it works, but please, no melting into a
Ron puddle.
Steve
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ron Miller" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2012 14:42
Subject: Re: Ling wire kits for hf
> Hi everyone,
> This is an easy antenna to build and deploy, assuming you've got a place
> to
> hang it from.
>
> First: You will attach it to the balun using the two conductors of the zip
> cord which are still zipped together. That is, the end opposite the end
> you
> unzipped to remove half of one conductor off of your length of zip cord.
> **If you didn't actually remove half of the conductor but made a gap in
> the
> wire instead, you'll have to make a note of which end you'll want to use,
> though the actual difference in length of the cut conductor from either
> end
> will only be a few inches.
>
> Strip the ends of the conductor you want to connect to the balun, don't
> bother stripping the ends of the long and short conductor that you'll be
> suspending.
>
> Second: put it up any way you can. I use a 20-foot crappie pole I've
> lashed
> to one of those cheapie plastic four-foot fence posts you can buy at the
> hardware store. I attached the single (longer) conductor to the tip of the
> pole and very loosely wound a few turns around the pole so that it
> wouldn't
> just blow out in a huge arc in a breeze. I didn't wind it more than a
> couple
> of times and it isn't wound like a coil, just circles the pole.
>
> You can also get one end up into a tree and just drop the other end to
> your
> balun, attach it to the highest place you can reach and make a long sloper
> back to your balun, put your balun right by a window on a high floor of a
> building and throw the wire out the window outward and downward into the
> top
> of a tree, etc, etc. No rocket science here, barely any antenna science.
>
> The radiation pattern, I believe, will be off the side, not the end of the
> wire. I suspect it acts like a big j-pole, but I really don't know.
>
> I've planned to put the 25-foot version on the air and meet all of you for
> the 20-meter net, but it's just really hot outside right now. Look for me
> when we get a break in the weather. I may get permanent antennas up before
> then, but I'll work you guys from the back yard with this antenna when I
> can
> do it without melting into a big Ron puddle in the process.
>
> I may get adventurous (or foolish) in the next few weekends and make the
> attempt anyway. If I do, I'll post a note here first.
>
> 73
>
>
>
> Ron Miller
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: For blind ham radio operators [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> On Behalf Of Steve Dresser
> Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2012 1:38 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Ling wire kits for hf
>
> Ron,
>
> A few of questions:
>
> 1. Where do you connect the balun?
> 2. Do you expose any of the ends of the zip cord?
> 3. How do you string up this antenna?
> 4. What kind of pattern does it give you?
>
> Steve
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ron Miller" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2012 13:21
> Subject: Re: Ling wire kits for hf
>
>
>> Hi Robert,
>> Below is the info I posted previously.
>>
>> Though this hasn't been mentioned in the recent threads, I've found the
>> no
>> counterpoise antenna and 20 foot crappie pole combo to work well. The
>> shorter version is 25 feet of zip cord (two conductor insulated wire) you
>> can split the two conductors apart from one end to the 12.5 foot point
>> and
>> remove the 12.5 foot section of one conductor thus freed. The goal is to
>> end
>> up with zip cord with a 25 foot conductor and a 12.5 foot conductor. I
>> load
>> this quite successfully through a 4-1 balun into my IC-703+ It will work
>> from 6-20 meters and requires no counterpoise. If you don't want to split
>> the zip cord and remove half of one conductor, you can remove a few
>> inches
>> of one of the conductors, creating the necessary 12.5 foot wire, just be
>> sure to make a gap big enough to ensure no coupling. You can make longer
>> versions to be able to load lower bands, the technique is the same,
>> simply
>> remove 1/2 of one of the conductors and make it 50 feet, 100 feet, etc.
>> My
>> plan is to make a 50-foot version as an inverted l so that I can try it
>> on
>> 40-meters and I'd really like to try a 100-foot version and see how it
>> works
>> on 80. This is, as I understand it, another twist on the end-fed zepp.
>>
>> Ron Miller
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: For blind ham radio operators
>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>> On Behalf Of Robert C
>> Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2012 11:09 AM
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: Ling wire kits for hf
>>
>> Ron,
>> I am afraid I did not read that. No counterpoise?
>>
>> Quote of the nanosecond...
>> The problem with the gene pool is that there is no lifeguard.
>> Robert & Dreamer Doll ke7nwn
>> E-mail-
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>>
>> On 7/20/2012 11:35 PM, Ron Miller wrote:
>>> The no counterpoise antenna I described earlier works well for this
>>> application.
>>>
>>> Ron Miller
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: For blind ham radio operators
>>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>>> On Behalf Of Robert C
>>> Sent: Friday, July 20, 2012 2:47 PM
>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>> Subject: Ling wire kits for hf
>>>
>>> Ran into a local ham who suggested I find a long wire antenna kit
>> and
>>> just toss it out the window, Well maybe not quite that simple. But, if
>>> I can pick up anything while waiting for a more permanent solution, why
>> not?
>>>
>>> Any sellers on eBay who sell good kits? Or other sources? Thanks.
>>>
>>> Quote of the nanosecond...
>>> Despite the cost of living, have you noticed how it remains so popular?
>>> Robert & Dreamer Doll ke7nwn
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