It may be worth a try then. I only mentioned that because I've known a lot 
of people who think a #10 peace of wire is enough and it really isn't, if 
you're running it as a counter poise with a artificial ground or something, 
that's enough but for a real ground, it's not and for a vertical with no 
radials, you really really need a good ground. I could never run a vertical 
that way here, I'm in a second floor apartment, all I could do is the 
counter poise setup I had at my last QTH, but I've been running it with no 
station ground at all and it's been working fine so I'm not going to mess 
with it. I don't care for the G5RV, after running the cobra Ultralite for a 
while but I don't have a choice here, cobra won't fit on the property.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steve Dresser" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 11:35 PM
Subject: Re: Vertical antennas


> John,
>
> I have a rather thick piece of insulated copper wire running from the 
> ground
> point in the shack to the ground rods.
>
> Steve
>