very well stated, Trish! Amen! 
I agree, the uaw has to go.   however there are still jobs that need unions; farmworkers & garment factories.

Ken, I resent having you say I was talking B.S...
 
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From: Trisha Cummings <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask]
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 4:12:13 AM
Subject: Re: Auto bailout

Hi Virginia,

  I was amused that the auto beggars - all arrived here in their private
jets. Not a one of them has a qualm about wasting the money on their
comfort - and there are 24 commercial flights a day from Detroit to
Washington, which would truly have cost less. I think a flight in a
private plane cost like 10,000 a pop, plus you have to have pilots on
staff, a place to park and maintain the planes. They have dug the hole
themselves by not wanting to give up anything - assembly line workers
get I think 60,000 a year and lots of bennies and the bigwigs - well one
of them made 17 million last year. I am not crying for them. They have
had 30 years to see the writing on the wall and chose not to - and its
not like all the foreign car companies don't have auto plants here using
American workers and making hybrid cars. So they should have emulated
the competition instead of waiting to be bailed out, and the Money they
set aside for the in 2007 was contingent on them figuring out how to get
better gas mileage and only GM with its battery idea did anything.
What's amazing in Finland they are running Hydrogen cars in some areas.
The technology and ideas are out there they are just ignoring - of
course part of this is the union problem. The manufactures can't retool
a factory without union approval - and they are slow to give that - so
it's easier for the company to close a plant and build a new one
somewhere else. The days of the unions need to be over.

                        Trisha

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From: Cerebral Palsy List [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf
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Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 12:32 AM
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Subject: Re: Auto bailout

Depends on how far north you are. The Idaho National Laboratory uses
altern=
atively-fueled vehicles out at their lab on the desert. They have
parking l=
ots with plug-ins. I've seen a few other places in the far north where
hote=
ls have outlets for guests to plug in the heaters inside cars up here so
th=
e guests can start their cars in the morning. I think if they could
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a bit extra=2C parking garages and other controlled entry parking areas
cou=
ld install outlets for electric cars. If there's money in it....
> Date: Thu=2C 20 Nov 2008 18:19:21 -0800> From: [log in to unmask]>
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ct: Re: Auto bailout> To: [log in to unmask]> > how many outlets
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hope they get the batteries to last longer. > > > --- On Wed=2C
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=2C Tamar Raine <[log in to unmask]> wrote:> > > From: Tamar Raine
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> Date: Wednesday=2C November 19=2C 2008=2C 11:33 PM> > the people who
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d to do all kinds of deliveries i could> > see the prob. but if you are
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ng to work for 8 hours a> > day=2C why not charge it at work? > >
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hen they figure out how to do it=2C i hope they make a> > hearing aid
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ry that lasts 6 months=2C it'd be better> > for the environment than a
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full of batteries going to> > landfills. i'd also love a lap top battery
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at> > doesn't die after 4 hours. > > > > > >
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esday=2C November 19=2C 2008=2C 10:43 PM> > > why 400 miles? i'd say 250
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> > > I've seen on buses now bike racks so for those who> > need> > >
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the>=
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is> >=
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