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VIRGIE UNDERWOOD <[log in to unmask]>
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The Electronic Church <[log in to unmask]>
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Sat, 25 Feb 2006 13:41:44 -0500
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Thanks Julie,
I am sure he is a real sweetie.
Virgie and Hoshi
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "JULIE MELTON" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2006 12:41 PM
Subject: Re: [Seeingeye-l] got this from a friendFw: BlindNews: Assistance 
Dogs


> I'll pet Lear for you.
>
> JulieMelton
> visit me at
> www.heart-and-music.com
> Keep smiling!
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "VIRGIE UNDERWOOD" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2006 10:40 AM
> Subject: Re: [Seeingeye-l] got this from a friendFw: BlindNews: Assistance
> Dogs
>
>
>> Julie,
>> How could I forget my furry friends?  I would love to have them all in a
>> room and just pet them til my hands get sore.
>> Smile!
>> Virgie and Hoshi
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "JULIE MELTON" <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2006 12:34 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Seeingeye-l] got this from a friendFw: BlindNews: 
>> Assistance
>> Dogs
>>
>>
>> > nd don't forget the dog from Denver, Lear, AKA King Lear.  Vicki also
>> > has
>> > a
>> > dog named Rory.
>> >
>> > JulieMelton
>> > visit me at
>> > www.heart-and-music.com
>> > Keep smiling!
>> >
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message ----- 
>> > From: "VIRGIE UNDERWOOD" <[log in to unmask]>
>> > To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> > Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2006 8:08 AM
>> > Subject: Re: [Seeingeye-l] got this from a friendFw: BlindNews:
>> > Assistance
>> > Dogs
>> >
>> >
>> >> Hi Jeramy,
>> >> That is a cool name for a cool dog living in Michigan!
>> >> Virgie and Hoshi
>> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> >> From: "Jeremy Gilley" <[log in to unmask]>
>> >> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> >> Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2006 5:41 AM
>> >> Subject: Re: [Seeingeye-l] got this from a friendFw: BlindNews:
>> >> Assistance
>> >> Dogs
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > Your not the only one with a cool pooch... I have a tan colored
>> >> > female
>> >> > lab named Snowball... cool name for a Michigan dog eh?
>> >> >
>> >> > -----Original Message-----
>> >> > From: The Electronic Church [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>> >> > On
>> >> > Behalf Of VIRGIE UNDERWOOD
>> >> > Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 6:52 PM
>> >> > To: [log in to unmask]
>> >> > Subject: Fw: [Seeingeye-l] got this from a friendFw: BlindNews:
>> >> > Assistance Dogs
>> >> >
>> >> > Hi to everyone,
>> >> > Here is a message I thought some of you might want to see.  Perhaps
>> >> > nobody
>> >> > on this list has a guide dog besides me but hopefully this will be 
>> >> > of
>> >> > some
>> >> > importance to some of you.
>> >> > Virgie and Hoshi
>> >> > ----- Original Message ----- 
>> >> > From: "Jennifer Wilgus" <[log in to unmask]>
>> >> > To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> >> > Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 2:38 PM
>> >> > Subject: [Seeingeye-l] got this from a friendFw: BlindNews:
>> >> > Assistance
>> >> > Dogs
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> >> >> From: "merrilee hill-kennedy" <[log in to unmask]>
>> >> >> To: <Undisclosed-Recipient:;>
>> >> >> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 1:29 PM
>> >> >> Subject: Fw: BlindNews: Assistance Dogs
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>> good article, not sure why the name paul moyer keeps popping up in
>> >> > the
>> >> >>> article. annoying and strange.
>> >> >>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> >> >>> From: "Marcia Moses" <[log in to unmask]>
>> >> >>> To: <Undisclosed-Recipient:;>
>> >> >>> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 10:46 AM
>> >> >>> Subject: BlindNews: Assistance Dogs
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>> NBC4, Los Angeles
>> >> >>>>> Wednesday, February 22, 2006
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> Assistance Dogs
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> LOS ANGELES -- As you may know -- animals, particularly dogs --
>> >> >>>>> can
>> >> > be
>> >> >>>>> trained to help people with almost any kind of disability. There
>> >> > are
>> >> >>>>> guide
>> >> >>>>> dogs for the blind, hearing dogs for the deaf and service dogs
>> >> >>>>> for
>> >> >>>>> people
>> >> >>>>> with disabilities ranging from epilepsy to cerebral palsy.
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> The U.S. Department of Transportation is currently considering
>> >> > rules
>> >> >>>>> that
>> >> >>>>> will impact how these dogs and, subsequently, the disabled,
>> >> >>>>> travel
>> >> > on
>> >> >>>>> airlines.
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> PAUL MOYER: Approximately 25,000 people in the United States use
>> >> >>>>> service
>> >> >>>>> animals.
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> CHERIE SATO: If he is not on the plane with me, I am not going 
>> >> >>>>> to
>> >> > be
>> >> >>>>> there.
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> PAUL MOYER: Cherie suffers from seizures, so she has Jake.
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> CHERIE SATO: He alerts me if a seizure is coming on.
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> PAUL MOYER: Diane has balance and orthopedic disabilities, so 
>> >> >>>>> she
>> >> > has
>> >> >>>>> Figment.
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> DIANE WHITE: I have had him for over a year, and I have not
>> >> >>>>> fallen
>> >> >>>>> once.
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> PAUL MOYER: And Lisa has cerebral palsy, so she has Montgomery.
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> LISA KNAPP: He gives me my independence.
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> PAUL MOYER: Independence that some members of the disabled
>> >> > community
>> >> >>>>> say is
>> >> >>>>> being threatened. Threatened by the airlines industry and the
>> >> >>>>> U.S.
>> >> >>>>> Department of Transportation.
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> ED EAMES: I can't believe what's going on. I really can't 
>> >> >>>>> believe
>> >> > it.
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> PAUL MOYER: The DOT is considering putting assistance dogs in
>> >> > cargo.
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> CHERIE SATO: If he's on the plane with me, I am not going to be
>> >> > there.
>> >> >>>>> I
>> >> >>>>> won't go.
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> PAUL MOYER: This is one of several DOT options for airlines on
>> >> >>>>> how
>> >> > to
>> >> >>>>> deal
>> >> >>>>> with assistance dogs.
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> ED EAMES: They are discriminating against a segment of the
>> >> >>>>> disabled
>> >> >>>>> community.
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> PAUL MOYER: Ed Eames advocates for the consumer rights of the
>> >> > disabled
>> >> >>>>> and
>> >> >>>>> acknowledges that some passengers may not want to sit next to an
>> >> >>>>> assistance
>> >> >>>>> dog.
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> PAUL MOYER: Dogs that come in all shapes and sizes.
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> EAMES: I say to those people, 'You have every right. You have
>> >> >>>>> paid
>> >> > for
>> >> >>>>> a
>> >> >>>>> seat.'"
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> PAUL MOYER: But, he says, there is an easy fix.
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> EAMES: Simply ask for a volunteer in the plane who would be
>> >> >>>>> willing
>> >> > to
>> >> >>>>> share
>> >> >>>>> leg space with the dog.
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> PAUL MOYER: Eames says flight attendants and other passengers 
>> >> >>>>> are
>> >> > very
>> >> >>>>> cooperative, and that this informal approach is extremely
>> >> > effective.
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> EAMES: It has been working for years.
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> PAUL MOYER: So if the practice of asking for a volunteer to
>> >> >>>>> switch
>> >> >>>>> seats has
>> >> >>>>> been working, what's the problem?
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> When asked by KNBC, the department of transportation could not
>> >> > provide
>> >> >>>>> any
>> >> >>>>> examples of passenger complaints involving assistance dogs.
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> We wanted to see for ourselves, so we took two flights with
>> >> >>>>> Michael
>> >> >
>> >> >>>>> Osborn
>> >> >>>>> and his guide dog, Hastings.
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> PASSENGER (VIDEO SHOWS PASSENGER IN PLANE): A stewardess came
>> >> > forward
>> >> >>>>> and
>> >> >>>>> said there was a guide dog in the back that was a little cramped
>> >> > for
>> >> >>>>> space.
>> >> >>>>> We said, 'Yeah, no problem, and so we all shifted around.'
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> PAUL MOYER: Without even being asked, flight attendants arranged
>> >> > for
>> >> >>>>> roomier
>> >> >>>>> seats, in both cases, moving us to the bulkhead.
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> PASSENGER: It wasn't a big deal at all.
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> PAUL MOYER: And passengers willingly changed seats.
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> CAROL (PASSENGER): On a plane with 200 people, there is bound to
>> >> >>>>> be
>> >> > at
>> >> >>>>> least
>> >> >>>>> one dog lover.
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> PAUL MOYER: So why are these rules?
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> The DOT declined multiple requests for an on-camera interview,
>> >> >>>>> but
>> >> >>>>> provided
>> >> >>>>> a statement, saying they "strongly support the rights of persons
>> >> > with
>> >> >>>>> disabilities to travel with their service animals on airlines."
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> PAUL MOYER: So why are the disabled so concerned?
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> The proposed rule says if a service animal does not fit under 
>> >> >>>>> the
>> >> > seat
>> >> >>>>> in
>> >> >>>>> front of the customer, the airline may "offer the option of
>> >> > purchasing
>> >> >>>>> a
>> >> >>>>> second seat."
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> ED EAMES: It would put a financial burden on the disabled 
>> >> >>>>> person,
>> >> > which
>> >> >>>>> would make air travel virtually impossible.
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> PAUL MOYER: Another DOT recommendation - traveling on a later
>> >> > flight.
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> ED EAMES: That takes an assumption that we don't have to make
>> >> >>>>> deadlines.
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> PAUL MOYER: Finally, and most offensive to the disabled, "having
>> >> > the
>> >> >>>>> service
>> >> >>>>> animal travel in the cargo hold."
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> ED EAMES: That defeats the notion of the independence that is
>> >> >>>>> being
>> >> >
>> >> >>>>> provided
>> >> >>>>> to us through working with an assistance dog.
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> PAUL MOYER: Some say this is the equivalent of asking an able
>> >> > bodied
>> >> >>>>> person
>> >> >>>>> to check their eyes or their legs with their baggage.
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> ED EAMES: It's punishing me for being disabled.
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> PAUL MOYER: It is of note that British Airways automatically
>> >> >>>>> blocks
>> >> > out
>> >> >>>>> a
>> >> >>>>> second seat, free of charge, for people traveling with 
>> >> >>>>> assistance
>> >> > dogs
>> >> >>>>> in
>> >> >>>>> their economy cabin.
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
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