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JULIE MELTON <[log in to unmask]>
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The Electronic Church <[log in to unmask]>
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 I'll pet Lear for you.

JulieMelton
visit me at
www.heart-and-music.com
Keep smiling!


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "VIRGIE UNDERWOOD" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2006 10:40 AM
Subject: Re: [Seeingeye-l] got this from a friendFw: BlindNews: Assistance 
Dogs


> Julie,
> How could I forget my furry friends?  I would love to have them all in a
> room and just pet them til my hands get sore.
> Smile!
> Virgie and Hoshi
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "JULIE MELTON" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2006 12:34 PM
> Subject: Re: [Seeingeye-l] got this from a friendFw: BlindNews: Assistance
> Dogs
>
>
> > nd don't forget the dog from Denver, Lear, AKA King Lear.  Vicki also 
> > has
> > a
> > dog named Rory.
> >
> > JulieMelton
> > visit me at
> > www.heart-and-music.com
> > Keep smiling!
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "VIRGIE UNDERWOOD" <[log in to unmask]>
> > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2006 8:08 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Seeingeye-l] got this from a friendFw: BlindNews: 
> > Assistance
> > Dogs
> >
> >
> >> Hi Jeramy,
> >> That is a cool name for a cool dog living in Michigan!
> >> Virgie and Hoshi
> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
> >> From: "Jeremy Gilley" <[log in to unmask]>
> >> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> >> Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2006 5:41 AM
> >> Subject: Re: [Seeingeye-l] got this from a friendFw: BlindNews:
> >> Assistance
> >> Dogs
> >>
> >>
> >> > Your not the only one with a cool pooch... I have a tan colored 
> >> > female
> >> > lab named Snowball... cool name for a Michigan dog eh?
> >> >
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: The Electronic Church [mailto:[log in to unmask]] 
> >> > On
> >> > Behalf Of VIRGIE UNDERWOOD
> >> > Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 6:52 PM
> >> > To: [log in to unmask]
> >> > Subject: Fw: [Seeingeye-l] got this from a friendFw: BlindNews:
> >> > Assistance Dogs
> >> >
> >> > Hi to everyone,
> >> > Here is a message I thought some of you might want to see.  Perhaps
> >> > nobody
> >> > on this list has a guide dog besides me but hopefully this will be of
> >> > some
> >> > importance to some of you.
> >> > Virgie and Hoshi
> >> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> >> > From: "Jennifer Wilgus" <[log in to unmask]>
> >> > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> >> > Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 2:38 PM
> >> > Subject: [Seeingeye-l] got this from a friendFw: BlindNews: 
> >> > Assistance
> >> > Dogs
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
> >> >> From: "merrilee hill-kennedy" <[log in to unmask]>
> >> >> To: <Undisclosed-Recipient:;>
> >> >> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 1:29 PM
> >> >> Subject: Fw: BlindNews: Assistance Dogs
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>> good article, not sure why the name paul moyer keeps popping up in
> >> > the
> >> >>> article. annoying and strange.
> >> >>> ----- Original Message ----- 
> >> >>> From: "Marcia Moses" <[log in to unmask]>
> >> >>> To: <Undisclosed-Recipient:;>
> >> >>> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 10:46 AM
> >> >>> Subject: BlindNews: Assistance Dogs
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>> NBC4, Los Angeles
> >> >>>>> Wednesday, February 22, 2006
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> Assistance Dogs
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> LOS ANGELES -- As you may know -- animals, particularly dogs --  
> >> >>>>> can
> >> > be
> >> >>>>> trained to help people with almost any kind of disability. There
> >> > are
> >> >>>>> guide
> >> >>>>> dogs for the blind, hearing dogs for the deaf and service dogs 
> >> >>>>> for
> >> >>>>> people
> >> >>>>> with disabilities ranging from epilepsy to cerebral palsy.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> The U.S. Department of Transportation is currently considering
> >> > rules
> >> >>>>> that
> >> >>>>> will impact how these dogs and, subsequently, the disabled, 
> >> >>>>> travel
> >> > on
> >> >>>>> airlines.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> PAUL MOYER: Approximately 25,000 people in the United States use
> >> >>>>> service
> >> >>>>> animals.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> CHERIE SATO: If he is not on the plane with me, I am not going to
> >> > be
> >> >>>>> there.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> PAUL MOYER: Cherie suffers from seizures, so she has Jake.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> CHERIE SATO: He alerts me if a seizure is coming on.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> PAUL MOYER: Diane has balance and orthopedic disabilities, so she
> >> > has
> >> >>>>> Figment.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> DIANE WHITE: I have had him for over a year, and I have not 
> >> >>>>> fallen
> >> >>>>> once.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> PAUL MOYER: And Lisa has cerebral palsy, so she has Montgomery.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> LISA KNAPP: He gives me my independence.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> PAUL MOYER: Independence that some members of the disabled
> >> > community
> >> >>>>> say is
> >> >>>>> being threatened. Threatened by the airlines industry and the 
> >> >>>>> U.S.
> >> >>>>> Department of Transportation.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> ED EAMES: I can't believe what's going on. I really can't believe
> >> > it.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> PAUL MOYER: The DOT is considering putting assistance dogs in
> >> > cargo.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> CHERIE SATO: If he's on the plane with me, I am not going to be
> >> > there.
> >> >>>>> I
> >> >>>>> won't go.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> PAUL MOYER: This is one of several DOT options for airlines on 
> >> >>>>> how
> >> > to
> >> >>>>> deal
> >> >>>>> with assistance dogs.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> ED EAMES: They are discriminating against a segment of the 
> >> >>>>> disabled
> >> >>>>> community.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> PAUL MOYER: Ed Eames advocates for the consumer rights of the
> >> > disabled
> >> >>>>> and
> >> >>>>> acknowledges that some passengers may not want to sit next to an
> >> >>>>> assistance
> >> >>>>> dog.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> PAUL MOYER: Dogs that come in all shapes and sizes.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> EAMES: I say to those people, 'You have every right. You have 
> >> >>>>> paid
> >> > for
> >> >>>>> a
> >> >>>>> seat.'"
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> PAUL MOYER: But, he says, there is an easy fix.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> EAMES: Simply ask for a volunteer in the plane who would be 
> >> >>>>> willing
> >> > to
> >> >>>>> share
> >> >>>>> leg space with the dog.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> PAUL MOYER: Eames says flight attendants and other passengers are
> >> > very
> >> >>>>> cooperative, and that this informal approach is extremely
> >> > effective.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> EAMES: It has been working for years.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> PAUL MOYER: So if the practice of asking for a volunteer to 
> >> >>>>> switch
> >> >>>>> seats has
> >> >>>>> been working, what's the problem?
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> When asked by KNBC, the department of transportation could not
> >> > provide
> >> >>>>> any
> >> >>>>> examples of passenger complaints involving assistance dogs.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> We wanted to see for ourselves, so we took two flights with 
> >> >>>>> Michael
> >> >
> >> >>>>> Osborn
> >> >>>>> and his guide dog, Hastings.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> PASSENGER (VIDEO SHOWS PASSENGER IN PLANE): A stewardess came
> >> > forward
> >> >>>>> and
> >> >>>>> said there was a guide dog in the back that was a little cramped
> >> > for
> >> >>>>> space.
> >> >>>>> We said, 'Yeah, no problem, and so we all shifted around.'
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> PAUL MOYER: Without even being asked, flight attendants arranged
> >> > for
> >> >>>>> roomier
> >> >>>>> seats, in both cases, moving us to the bulkhead.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> PASSENGER: It wasn't a big deal at all.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> PAUL MOYER: And passengers willingly changed seats.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> CAROL (PASSENGER): On a plane with 200 people, there is bound to 
> >> >>>>> be
> >> > at
> >> >>>>> least
> >> >>>>> one dog lover.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> PAUL MOYER: So why are these rules?
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> The DOT declined multiple requests for an on-camera interview, 
> >> >>>>> but
> >> >>>>> provided
> >> >>>>> a statement, saying they "strongly support the rights of persons
> >> > with
> >> >>>>> disabilities to travel with their service animals on airlines."
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> PAUL MOYER: So why are the disabled so concerned?
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> The proposed rule says if a service animal does not fit under the
> >> > seat
> >> >>>>> in
> >> >>>>> front of the customer, the airline may "offer the option of
> >> > purchasing
> >> >>>>> a
> >> >>>>> second seat."
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> ED EAMES: It would put a financial burden on the disabled person,
> >> > which
> >> >>>>> would make air travel virtually impossible.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> PAUL MOYER: Another DOT recommendation - traveling on a later
> >> > flight.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> ED EAMES: That takes an assumption that we don't have to make
> >> >>>>> deadlines.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> PAUL MOYER: Finally, and most offensive to the disabled, "having
> >> > the
> >> >>>>> service
> >> >>>>> animal travel in the cargo hold."
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> ED EAMES: That defeats the notion of the independence that is 
> >> >>>>> being
> >> >
> >> >>>>> provided
> >> >>>>> to us through working with an assistance dog.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> PAUL MOYER: Some say this is the equivalent of asking an able
> >> > bodied
> >> >>>>> person
> >> >>>>> to check their eyes or their legs with their baggage.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> ED EAMES: It's punishing me for being disabled.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> PAUL MOYER: It is of note that British Airways automatically 
> >> >>>>> blocks
> >> > out
> >> >>>>> a
> >> >>>>> second seat, free of charge, for people traveling with assistance
> >> > dogs
> >> >>>>> in
> >> >>>>> their economy cabin.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
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