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Cuyler Page <[log in to unmask]>
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Hi Bruce,

Nice chart.   You are using the number series known as the Fibonacci Series,
discovered by Middle Aged monk who loved matematics.   The Fibonacci Series
features numbers in which each is the sum of the preceding two.   Therefore,
you have to add another two units at the beginning, a "0" and a "1" to make
the series perfect.   After all, the Universe had to begin with the big
yawn, and then there was One, who got lonely, so then there were Two, and
then .........

The Fibonacci Series and the Golden Ration are not the same thing.   The
Ratio is pure in its geometric form.   What iz interezting is how they
describe each other, becoming more precise the higher the plane of
reference.   There are other places where the Golden proportion has
parallels too, but Fibonacci's numbers are the easiest to see.

An interesting thing about the ratio is that it is reciprocal.   If you
divide one number into the next, you get 1.618....  If you divide it into
the previous, you get 0.618....

To really make Ralph steam, go count the spiral rows of seeds in a
sunflower.  Count both left and right spirals.   One will be 34 and the
other will be 55.   Been there, done that.   It works.   Obviously you don't
believe anything you can't do yourself.

cp in bc

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bruce Marcham" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2005 11:24 AM
Subject: Re: [BP] Golden


jc:

Have a look at this table below (somewhat corrupted when viewed in plain
text) I did on what I understand the series to be:


Golden Ratio

                                                Ratio           Angle
(degrees)
Iteration       Side A  Side B  (A/B)           (arctan A/B)
1               1               1               1               45
2               1               2               0.5             26.56505118
3               2               3               0.666666667
33.69006753
4               3               5               0.6             30.96375653
5               5               8               0.625           32.00538321
6               8               13              0.615384615
31.60750225
7               13              21              0.619047619
31.75948008
8               21              34              0.617647059
31.70142967
9               34              55              0.618181818
31.72360296
10              55              89              0.617977528
31.71513352
11              89              144             0.618055556
31.71836855
12              144             233             0.618025751
31.71713288
13              233             377             0.618037135
31.71760487
14              377             610             0.618032787
31.71742458
15              610             987             0.618034448
31.71749344
16              987             1597            0.618033813
31.71746714
17              1597            2584            0.618034056
31.71747719
18              2584            4181            0.618033963
31.71747335
19              4181            6765            0.618033999
31.71747482
20              6765            10946           0.618033985
31.71747426
21              10946           17711           0.61803399
31.71747447
22              17711           28657           0.618033988
31.71747439
23              28657           46368           0.618033989
31.71747442
24              46368           75025           0.618033989
31.71747441
25              75025           121393          0.618033989
31.71747441
26              121393          196418          0.618033989
31.71747441
27              196418          317811          0.618033989
31.71747441
28              317811          514229          0.618033989
31.71747441
29              514229          832040          0.618033989
31.71747441
30              832040          1346269         0.618033989
31.71747441
31              1346269         2178309         0.618033989
31.71747441
32              2178309         3524578         0.618033989
31.71747441

Note that it pretty quickly settles out on a ratio of 0.618 (though it does
show up as 0.61835 and 0.625 early on) and the angle is 31.72 degrees (or
31.7174744...).

I think someone made mention of the idea that maybe this series is one that
approaches a given ration when the calculation is carried out a large number
of times--the table above shows that it does.

I've also attached the calculations as an Excel spreadsheet.  Excel is a
favorite tool of mine for repetitive calculations.

I note that the ratio of 1/1.618 is 0.618...

Interesting, but my mind is getting fried on this whole business.

Do you want Golden Fries with that?

BM

P.S. I again refer you to the item I googled which has some high fallutin'
derivations and constructions on the subject:

http://jwilson.coe.uga.edu/emt669/Student.Folders/Frietag.Mark/Homepage/Goldenratio/goldenratio.html

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