Hi Brian;
Now, you have the right idea.
All of us need to make adjustments.
73 De Anthony W2AJV
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----- Original Message -----
From: "k5in" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2004 3:55 AM
Subject: Re: PL Required for Repeater Coordination
> Another spin on the topic at hand!
>
> I currently own 2 repeaters myself 441.950mhz with a PL of 103.5 and
> 224.280mhz with a PL of 123hz.
>
> Interference is the biggest issue with my being in western Washington just
> north of Seattle and within easy range of southwestern BC. including
> Vancouver BC.
>
> During my coordination process I frustrated the 220mhz coordinator by
> insisting that my machines would transmit their own PL tone. In
> otherwards,
> the controller filters out the received PL which if not filtered and
> retransmitted is less than 2 to 300hz of deviation and some decoders can
> have a problem decoding. I transmit the same PL via a encoder on the
> transmitter with a higher level of deviation. The coordinator said "it is
> not the norm" my answer, "I don't care, I want the users to be able to
> decode, access and enjoy!" This of course frustrated, to no end the
> coordinator I was dealing with but hey, If I have to use PL tones for my
> machines then I will certainly make it easy for the users whether they be
> local or visiting my area to access the machines. I kind of thought that
> was what ham radio was all about wasn't it? Friendly, helpful and there
> for
> others? I too am a total but have found a way to deal with the PL tone
> thing after moving up here from New Mexico where we didn't have the PL
> tone
> issues. My answer is it is part of life and we will have to find a way to
> deal with it. remember when computers were all new?
>
> Brian, k5in Everett Washington oh yes, I am also apart of two other high
> level machines and we did the same thing on those with the encoders
> transmitting pl's at a level all decoders can detect and decode.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Don Bishop" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2004 12:31 AM
> Subject: Re: PL Required for Repeater Coordination
>
>
> I agree that the accessibility issue is really not the driving force here
> at
> all. It is, however, difficult for someone who may just be visiting an
> area
> to know all
> the pl tones for each machine in a particular area.
>
> I wonder if they've ever considered having repeater operators include the
> pl
> frequency as part of the regular repeater id sequence. Do this for open
> repeaters anyway.
>
> Don W6SMB
>
> On Sun, 29 Aug 2004 03:03:07 -0400, Ray T. Mahorney wrote:
>
> I'm thinking you may be miss underestimating the intent of the new policy.
> In most cases the
> effected repeaters are open machines so there is no purpose to be defeated
> by broadcast of the tone
> frequencies. Also, this policy is an attempt to curb an issue of
> interference between co-channel
> users on a pair which has been an issue needing to be addressed for years.
> Your concerns about
> accessibility are valid concerns but the coordinating bodies need to look
> at
> broader issues such as
> reducing interference. They are likely aware of the accessibility issues
> but those issues fall
> outside the scope of their responsibilities If you are concerned about
> accessibility I respectfully
> suggest you address those concerns to the equipment manufacturers and
> venders.
> "I do think that radio is the most enormously magical medium in a way that
> television simply ain't!"
> Douglas Adams
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Harvey Heagy" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Saturday, August 28, 2004 17:19
> Subject: Re: PL Required for Repeater Coordination
>
>
> Chris, I agree with you.
>
> I also feel that the blind are being left out of the equation because not
> all radios are accessible to us.
>
> Also, if a repeater owner chooses to broadcast its P.L. tone what good
> does
> it do to require tones since that effectively cancels out the purpose of
> the
> tone. Most radios have a tone finding feature wherein if a repeater is
> active it can find the right P.L. tone. So I really don't see that this
> policy will do much good.
> 73. Harvey (N.5.H.A.U.)
>
>
>
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